It is not usual to have two-way switching for the hall light (with one upstairs).
It has always been in every house I have lived in.......after your comment I just thought it must have been an Essex thing
It is not usual to have two-way switching for the hall light (with one upstairs).
Well, to be entirely accurate, I would say it is not necessary to have the upstairs wired like that either, all you have to do is not forget to switch it off before coming down.Well, to be entirely accurate, I would say because it is not necessary so most houses are not wired like that.
I have only lived in one so I have no additional info on thatOk. Perhaps bigger three storey town houses are different.
Indeed yes, in fact ground and 2nd floors had 4 wayThey probably have a switch at both ends of the hall as well.
yesDo you mean so that you can switch on the hall light from upstairs before going down,
yesor can switch off the hall light from upstairs
Why does using a perfectly normal facility become a mistake? I have 9 sets of 2, 3 or 4 way switching in my present house, I must be very forgetfulbecause you left it on by mistake when going up?
Sorry I can't read it a different way, I have tried to reply to the words I see. Which part have I got wrong?I fear you have misunderstood what I wrote.
Please try again.
It does not work like that. Switching off upstairs before coming down would not illuminate the stairs, - but when going up to bed, it is not necessary to leave the hallway light on until you get upstairs.Well, to be entirely accurate, I would say it is not necessary to have the upstairs wired like that either, all you have to do is not forget to switch it off before coming down.
Well, that definitely is not how most (the majority of) houses are wired.Indeed yes, in fact ground and 2nd floors had 4 way
What has that to do with advancing years?
Fair enough.
I didn't say it did.Why does using a perfectly normal facility become a mistake?
Having so many, you obviously don't know how forgetful you might be as it doesn't arise.I have 9 sets of 2, 3 or 4 way switching in my present house, I must be very forgetful
So most did not originally have it.I have lived in 7 houses in total, 3 had this facility from new and the rest had it added.
Ok. Did they think the one without was odd?My son and daughter have purchased 2 new builds each in the last few years and 3 of those were equipped that way from new.
Does it?I would not describe any of the above properties as grand but of course adding another switch does look good on the spec for a new house
Sorry I don't quite understand this. Surely walking down stairs with a light behind you puts the area in front of you in shadow. No? Has my basic common sense let me down here? Safety issue?It does not work like that. Switching off upstairs before coming down would not illuminate the stairs, - but when going up to bed, it is not necessary to leave the hallway light on until you get upstairs.
In my little snapshot 6/11 (becoming 10/11) is a majority, No? In my experience it is becoming far more common in new builds.Well, that definitely is not how most (the majority of) houses are wired.
Not wanting to travel further than necessary, in the dark, to switch a light on or offWhat has that to do with advancing years?
You did, go checkI didn't say it did.
It has nothing to do with forgetfulness, having 2 way switching is a mater of convenience for me, just like everyone else. For example when I arrive home in the dark and park the vehicle, the 60ft or so walk to the house is much easier when I switch the light on and then off only when I get indoors, the opposite situation occurs when I leave the house in the dark. This way I can avoid the fox tish and any other unexpected obstructions.Having so many, you obviously don't know how forgetful you might be as it doesn't arise.
6 of 11 is more than 50%, No?So most did not originally have it.
Yes they did, as the upstairs light hardly illuminated any of the stair treads whereas the hall light illuminated most of them. Before any comments about poor design etc this was by a well known, and supposedly respected, national house builder.Ok. Did they think the one without was odd?
OK, but I bet you would change your habits if this facility existed in your house.I have lived in five houses and none had the arrangement.
I respect your observations.I have worked in many houses and have not found it the usual (i.e. most common) arrangement.
I don't dispute it.I don't think there can be any dispute about that
I Didn't get irate about it, and I haven't got irate about any subsequent comments either. Neither have I criticised others opinions or views in this regard...and find it strange that you should get so irate about such an unimportant subject.
I reckon it must do, otherwise they wouldn't waste their time and ink writing it.Does it?
Yes it is.Well, this is silly.
And I have not disputed it. I simply replied:My original statement was:
"It is not usual to have two-way switching for the hall light (with one upstairs)."
which, in my experience, is true and you cannot dispute nor disprove it.
All I have done is make some factual statements which you seem to have taken a disliking to.Why not? It certainly is in every house I have lived in and not all installed by me. The town house had all 3 floors switched on all 3 floors (original build)
Neither do IWhether this is, as mentioned, a geographical difference I do not know.
My list of 11 includes: A 1 bed starter, a 3 bed town house (a total of 11ft wide internally), a 4 bed terraced (Probably the 2nd largest property in my list). 2 each of 2bed terraced & 3bed semi's so hardly anything particularly big or exceptional.I still maintain it is more likely that your houses have been what I called grander (I merely meant larger) than the majority of houses.
The relevance is to indicate why 2 way switching is useful, as I described in the post, and not something to overcome making a mistake as you described it.I do not see the relevance of your kitchen lighting nor fox shıt; nor for that matter whether you have been working hard or drinking, although it could explain some of the post.
Exactly, so why did you get so upset and keep banging on about it?Either way, it is not important and even if your experience is different than mine, so what?
Actually reading this back again I'm quite happy with the quality of my previous post bearing in mind how tired and happily tipsy I was.Surely walking down stairs with a light behind you puts the area in front of you in shadow. No? Has my basic common sense let me down here? Safety issue?
Yes they did, as the upstairs light hardly illuminated any of the stair treads whereas the hall light illuminated most of them. Before any comments about poor design etc this was by a well known, and supposedly respected, national house builder.
Yes it is.
And I have not disputed it. I simply replied:All I have done is make some factual statements which you seem to have taken a disliking to.
Neither do I
My list of 11 includes: A 1 bed starter, a 3 bed town house (a total of 11ft wide internally), a 4 bed terraced (Probably the 2nd largest property in my list). 2 each of 2bed terraced & 3bed semi's so hardly anything particularly big or exceptional.
The relevance is to indicate why 2 way switching is useful, as I described in the post, and not something to overcome making a mistake as you described it.
Exactly, so why did you get so upset and keep banging on about it?
I notice how you have been selective over which parts of my drunken reply to comment on. I thought the safety aspects I raised may have been a better thing to comment on as they are based on a lot of experience, domestically, commercially and public entertainment.
Yes, sorry for banging on.Actually reading this back again I'm quite happy with the quality of my previous post bearing in mind how tired and happily tipsy I was.
Yep most of my words are a reply to yours.Yes, sorry for banging on.
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