A bit of good news...

[Notch7]

Hey, you forgot to tell us how your educated brain after your educated research told your educated hand to tick the 'leave' box in the referendum. Swerve7 doing what Swerve7 does.

I hadnt done any research I just voted based on the years of lies in the Telegraph


but you have learnt that brexit was a mistike but you are so deeply invested in it you are still supporting the con 9 years later...............do you think that is an intelligent position to hold?

 

[Mottie]

A person who is well educated is able to research.

I hadnt done any research.

Comedy gold.

 

[Notch7]

Comedy gold.

Mottie calls somebody thick for not doing research on Brexit

Mottie still supports brexit 9 years later

comedy gold

 

[ellal]

No costs have been mentioned as to how much it is likely to cost the UK to subsidise a foreign jolly / booze up

Actually costs have been mentioned...

£570m which is less that the average EU member country pays pro rata...

But you have to look beyond the figures and understand the far greater value of the type of networking in education that brexit cut off...

Investing for the future is a win win situation...

Unlike the £90bn a year hit that brexiteers are happy to see the UK endure...

Brexiteers have never explained why they are ok with the fact that the benefits and opportunities that they were able to take advantage of are no longer available to the upcoming generations...

And they appear to recoil in horror when any chance to redress the balance for their children and grandchildren is announced...

All in the name of a failed ideology that they appear wedded to and are trying to repeat again!

 

[ellal]

So we're going back to a scheme for the well heeled students to enjoy a jolly abroad. Oh well, anything that puts back their introduction to the real world of work for another year has got to be a good thing for these lifelong slackers.

Who can apply (for Erasmus)?

Students at university or college
Apprentices in vocational training
School pupils as part of a class or group
Adult learners with an adult learning organisation
Staff working in education (can travel to train or teach abroad)
Volunteers at youth organisations (can travel for training or workshops)

As usual mottie, your ideology doesn't hide your ignorance

 

[motorbiking]

Over £1/2 a billion seems a bit expensive for a bi-lateral agreement. I'm not entirely sure this is good news.

Erasmus live updates: Relief and regret as students react to UK rejoining EU scheme

British students will be able to spend a year studying at EU universities without paying extra fees, and vice versa for European students.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Mottie]

Who can apply (for Erasmus)?

Students at university or college
Apprentices in vocational training
School pupils as part of a class or group
Adult learners with an adult learning organisation
Staff working in education (can travel to train or teach abroad)
Volunteers at youth organisations (can travel for training or workshops)

As usual mottie, your ideology doesn't hide your ignorance

What was wrong with the Turing scheme? That was worldwide, not just the EU wasn’t it?

 

[motorbiking]

What was wrong with the Turing scheme? That was worldwide, not just the EU wasn’t it?

not invented by labour.

 

[ellal]

What was wrong with the Turing scheme? That was worldwide, not just the EU wasn’t it?

It was a bureaucratic nightmare compared with the tried and tested Erasmus scheme...

And it wasn't an 'all in one' package covering all aspects of an exchange program.

Ironically Erasmus+ was being introduced when the UK quit, and that addressed the problems Turing was supposed to change but couldn't...

Because a system with one country attempting to negotiate with many others as opposed to a bloc approach is far too unwieldy and bleeds finances - hence it's failure!

Edit.
Erasmus was not just the EU

Third countries associated to Erasmus
North Macedonia
Serbia
Iceland
Liechtenstein
Norway
Türkiye

The following countries can take part in certain Actions of the Programme, subject to specific criteria or conditions.

Western Balkans (Region 1)
Albania; Bosnia and Herzegovina; Kosovo ; Montenegro

Neighbourhood East (Region 2)
Armenia; Azerbaijan; Belarus ; Georgia ; Moldova; Ukraine

South-Mediterranean countries (Region 3)
Algeria; Egypt; Israel ; Jordan; Lebanon; Libya; Morocco; Palestine ; Syria; Tunisia

Russian Federation (Region 4)
Russia

Region 5 Asia
Bangladesh, Bhutan, Cambodia, China, DPR Korea, India, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Philippines, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Vietnam

High income countries and territories
Brunei, Hong Kong, Japan, Republic of Korea, Macao, Singapore and Taiwan

Region 6 Central Asia
Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan

Region 7 Middle East
Iran, Iraq, Yemen

High income countries: Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates

Region 8 Pacific
Fiji, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Niue, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Timor-Leste, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu

High income countries: Australia, Cook Islands, New Zealand

Region 9 Sub-Saharan Africa
Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cabo Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Congo, Congo - Democratic Republic of the, Côte d’Ivoire, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Eswatini, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Region 10 Latin America
Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela

Region 11 Caribbean
Antigua & Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia, St Vincent & Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad & Tobago

Region 12 US and Canada
United States of America, Canada

Region 13
Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City State

Region 14
Faroe Islands, Switzerland, United Kingdom

 

[motorbiking]

It was a bureaucratic nightmare compared with the tried and tested Erasmus scheme...

And it wasn't an 'all in one' package covering all aspects of an exchange program.

Ironically Erasmus+ was being introduced when the UK quit, and that addressed the problems Turing was supposed to change but couldn't...

Because a system with one country attempting to negotiate with many others as opposed to a bloc approach is far too unwieldy and bleeds finances - hence it's failure!

do you think its good value?

 

[ellal]

do you think its good value?

Yes...

Because it also promotes cross country learning and has untold benefits...

Both culturally and economic...

But given that you question value, could you tell us whether the net £9bn (ish) per annum money 'saved' from not making EU contributions is worth the £90bn per annum financial hit the UK has taken post brexit?