I have decided that you owe me 20% of your income for services I provide but which you didn't ask for. And I'm calling it fraud when you don't pay. Don't worry, I'll PM you the address where to send the cheque.
A different view on the economy
- Thread starter The Baker
- Start date
you can move to a country where there are no taxes if you like, or to a country where taxes are optional.
Unfortunately in these places there may be no public services, so no-one to help you when a gang raids your house and robs you.
Unfortunately in these places there may be no public services, so no-one to help you when a gang raids your house and robs you.
Taxes are optional here too. The state doesn't like it when you take the option of not paying, but that's all part of the option.
If I keep my money I can simply pay for those things myself.
If I sell something then it is earned income. What are benefits claimants selling, exactly?
Last edited:
Their vote?
Only if it is your job (selling things).
Just like here then.
At least in those countries you can arm your self with an ak47.
Here every criminal is well aware that very few home owners are armed.
In the rare event they are caught and prosecuted, sentences handed down by magistrates are lenient.
In Switzerland every one owns a gun. Should be the same here.
Last edited:
I'm sorry to hear Northern Ireland is lawless and armed gangs roam freely.
Let's hope things improve.
Northern Ireland has the best police force in the world. Honed from decades of experience with terrorism.
Which means that armed gangs have extreme difficulty. And since the peace process most have laid down their guns. (For now)
But Yes I dare say it still has plenty of armed gangs off all sorts. But so does most of the UK. Which is what I was referring too.
But don't let me stop you posting spurious lies.
I'm not the moderator after all.
But you are.
Last edited:
D
Doggit
As usual, this type of thread has degenerated in to the left wingers insisting that the rich are the scourge of the earth, quoting the likes of Phillip Green, even though the majority of right wingers don't come any where near his greed or earnings, and that the down trodden on benefits are the used and abused by the system. I watched Terry Christain on the Wright show this morning, and I never cease to be amazed how a man that has come so far from his a working class background, still sprouts the same slogans that his father did, even though his life style is now obviosuly up there with the likes of all the union bosses that treat their members as cash cows for their exagerated life styles.
I wonder if there are any left wingers that don't a chip on their shoulders, or a hatred of things they don't properly understand. Or is it the inevitable chip on the shoulder blinds them to a more honest view of the world. Hate and jealousy must be a corrosive thing to live with.
Those earning less that £11,500 pay no income tax, and those earning less that £8164 per annum pay no national insurance.
I wonder if there are any left wingers that don't a chip on their shoulders, or a hatred of things they don't properly understand. Or is it the inevitable chip on the shoulder blinds them to a more honest view of the world. Hate and jealousy must be a corrosive thing to live with.
Those earning less that £11,500 pay no income tax, and those earning less that £8164 per annum pay no national insurance.
I don't mean this nastily at all, but -
Are you not just the converse of your statement?
I don't have a chip on my shoulder.
I just know the world is not fair and everything, including the tax laws, is geared toward the wealthy.
Indeed that's how it has been designed - by the wealthy.
In the past the wealthy did nothing. They just owned everything and the poor were charged (taxed) for using it.
It may be a bit better these days - fought for by the ones you seem to dislike - but in comparison it's not a million miles away.
How bad do you think it would be if left to the wealthy?
D
Doggit
No trust me EFL, I'm not. I not impressed with any of the current parties, but Labour does spend and tax, and the Tories then do austerity, but the system is geared in the favour of those in power, not for those that any party claims to represent, neither rich nor poor.
And as you don't tend to post political comments, my comments wern't intended for you whatsoever. We've gone way past the days of the mill owners and the mine workers, and as Essex boys can get rich in the city, it's no where as clear cut as it used to be. But it was actually Labour that stopped social mobiliy by getting rid of Grammar schools, and they always try and take down those at the top, not bring up those at the bottom.
The tax laws aren't actually geared towards the wealthy, it's just that wealthy are more able to understand them, and get the best out of them. But if you google how much tax the so called rich pay, and how much the rest of us do, you'll be damned glad that there are rich people out there to support us. It would be nice if some of the HMRC didn't help the lkes of Starbucks get away with so much.
The problem with this country isn't the supposed rich, it's the government of whichever persuasion is in power at the time, because none of them are actually capable of the job they are doing.
I was one of those that fought for it as well, we all did. But the wealthy landowners that we fought, don't exists any longer, so why are some still dredging those times up.
D
Deleted member 63160
I know that mate but thanks. Primary thresholds, lower limits, blah blah blah, old hat. Nosey picked 13k as an example of low income just to help his trolling. Everyone knows some folk earn even less than the LEL.
D
Doggit
Actually, I was adding it for Noseall, but I wasn't sure the best point to pick up the quote.
Not really, we haven't.
The serfs just live in the Far East now. Well, some of them have for a while.
No. It is only the wealthy who can afford to take advantage. That's the clever part.
Note that it is only Jimmy Carr who gets into trouble for it - cheeky upstart.
Agreed - unless the Conservatives are doing as intended.
Oh, yes they do, and
they now get paid for wind generators - even the ones on the sea-bed - and solar arrays.
As in breaking the law is optional. Silly analogy.
Similar threads
