Hi, thanks for all your comments. I am fully aware that it is not an easy task. Never said it was.
However as I often find with tradesmen they will often make things a lot more complicated than they are just to show that they know best and every job in the house the builders, joiners, electricians, plumbers all say you need a professional to do it. I agree to the fact it would be easier to get a professional in yes but it costs an arm and a leg.
I am sure I could read up enough combined with my physics understanding current and voltage on circuits im sure I could work it out.
It is really only the lighting circuit that needs fully replaced.
The 2 rings up and down could be extended to supply the extra sockets. I am just adding 3 sockets to the upstair ring. I know where the feed comes from the fusebox and where it returns.
Downstair I was looking to add 4 sockets. I know where ring starts and ends too.
The cooker circuit needs rerouted. It is actually going to be closer to the fusebox so the cable will be slightly shorter.
Might get a mixer shower.
I was going to leave the consumer unit to a qualified electrician.
I know plenty of people who have added sockets etc to their home themselves.
What questions am I asking that would make it seem I do not know anything?.
I know that there is far more sockets on 1 ring in my current house than in my new house. So adding 3 sockets to the ring in new house should not be an issue as they are in the bedrooms and will barely be used. Definately not all at once. I was going to incorporate them on the ring mains rather than spur off sockets. Or I could use junction boxes.
I am not saying I know 100% what I am doing but I have people I can ask for anything I am not sure of.
The automatic response from tradesmen are you cannot do it and its not simply this or that. Thats where they make their money.
I know an electrician who charged a friend of mines mum £85 to install a bathroom light. Basically taking the ceiling rose off and fitting a waterproof round light in its place. No other work at all.
I know that £2000 for a house rewire may seem a good deal to an electrician but for me I look at the fact I am buying all fixture and fittings and raggling all runs for cables. So all the electrician is doing is supplying wire and a consumer unit and running the cables.
I could get all the sockets, light fittings, fan, cooker hood, wire, consumer unit, smoke alarms, door bell all for under £300. So it would cost me £1700 for someone to run the cables and test.
Be just like physics where you do circuits with lights and resistors and fuses etc, Or electronic construction where you build circuits using resistors and switches but on a larger scale.
I also got told by mechanic that it would be £1200 to do a service on my old e39. This was, brake discs and pads all round, oil filter and oil change, fuel filter, air filter, pollen filters, spark plugs, rocker cover gasket, spark plug seals, swirl flap modification. I bought all the parts for £300 and did it myself. Garage said they would need to do it and I could not do it.
Same as hanging doors, or installing door frames a joiner will say its not just a case of a few screws and nails but in fact it is. That and a bit of patience a pencil and spirit level.
Im sure most people can do most things once they are shown or read how to do it. electricians did not know how to do it before they read up and learned. I can read up and learn. It is only a small house there is no large runs of cables or huge amounts of sockets or lights.
I would have it checked and tested on completion so if there was any mistakes then I am sure they would know. Cannot be any worse than the so called electricians that fitted the additions to the electrics already. There are a few good tradesmen but in my experience most are cowboys and always take the cheap and cheerful and easy shortcut options but still charge the client full whack.
However as I often find with tradesmen they will often make things a lot more complicated than they are just to show that they know best and every job in the house the builders, joiners, electricians, plumbers all say you need a professional to do it. I agree to the fact it would be easier to get a professional in yes but it costs an arm and a leg.
I am sure I could read up enough combined with my physics understanding current and voltage on circuits im sure I could work it out.
It is really only the lighting circuit that needs fully replaced.
The 2 rings up and down could be extended to supply the extra sockets. I am just adding 3 sockets to the upstair ring. I know where the feed comes from the fusebox and where it returns.
Downstair I was looking to add 4 sockets. I know where ring starts and ends too.
The cooker circuit needs rerouted. It is actually going to be closer to the fusebox so the cable will be slightly shorter.
Might get a mixer shower.
I was going to leave the consumer unit to a qualified electrician.
I know plenty of people who have added sockets etc to their home themselves.
What questions am I asking that would make it seem I do not know anything?.
I know that there is far more sockets on 1 ring in my current house than in my new house. So adding 3 sockets to the ring in new house should not be an issue as they are in the bedrooms and will barely be used. Definately not all at once. I was going to incorporate them on the ring mains rather than spur off sockets. Or I could use junction boxes.
I am not saying I know 100% what I am doing but I have people I can ask for anything I am not sure of.
The automatic response from tradesmen are you cannot do it and its not simply this or that. Thats where they make their money.
I know an electrician who charged a friend of mines mum £85 to install a bathroom light. Basically taking the ceiling rose off and fitting a waterproof round light in its place. No other work at all.
I know that £2000 for a house rewire may seem a good deal to an electrician but for me I look at the fact I am buying all fixture and fittings and raggling all runs for cables. So all the electrician is doing is supplying wire and a consumer unit and running the cables.
I could get all the sockets, light fittings, fan, cooker hood, wire, consumer unit, smoke alarms, door bell all for under £300. So it would cost me £1700 for someone to run the cables and test.
Be just like physics where you do circuits with lights and resistors and fuses etc, Or electronic construction where you build circuits using resistors and switches but on a larger scale.
I also got told by mechanic that it would be £1200 to do a service on my old e39. This was, brake discs and pads all round, oil filter and oil change, fuel filter, air filter, pollen filters, spark plugs, rocker cover gasket, spark plug seals, swirl flap modification. I bought all the parts for £300 and did it myself. Garage said they would need to do it and I could not do it.
Same as hanging doors, or installing door frames a joiner will say its not just a case of a few screws and nails but in fact it is. That and a bit of patience a pencil and spirit level.
Im sure most people can do most things once they are shown or read how to do it. electricians did not know how to do it before they read up and learned. I can read up and learn. It is only a small house there is no large runs of cables or huge amounts of sockets or lights.
I would have it checked and tested on completion so if there was any mistakes then I am sure they would know. Cannot be any worse than the so called electricians that fitted the additions to the electrics already. There are a few good tradesmen but in my experience most are cowboys and always take the cheap and cheerful and easy shortcut options but still charge the client full whack.