Alarm control box relocation

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peter1450

Hi Have an alarm control box that was in an understairs cupboard which the wife decided she wanted removed! Now i think it looks pretty unsightly and would like to move it to a new cupboard which houses the main fuse box.
Mains supply is obviously no problem but can i extend the existing alarm/sensor wires and if so what is the best way of making the joint(eg junction boxes) , what type and where to purchase. Cheers Pete
 
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better to move the cables.

if you cant oh dear.

each cable you can see has 4, 6 or 8 cores (may be 12) so the easiest way is to extend them one at a time and connect them using choc bloc, but it then means you need a big junction box to hold them all, which will be around the size of the existing alarm panel :confused:

which is why i said better to move them
 
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peter1450

Cheers Breezer
Not sure if i explained clearly..............it was late! The control panel needs to be moved, at present all the sensor wires run in trunking down the wall and under the floor then routed to the various rooms/sensors.
What i am trying to acheive is to move the control panel to another wall , this in turn will make all the multicore wires approx 3 metres too short, hence the connector question.
If i turn off the power to the control panel, number each wire at the control box and under the floor then cut and connect the new wires do you forsee any problems?
I,d like to do this now as i,m in the process of laying new joists and flooring in the hallway and have good access at the moment , plus the control panel has to come off the wall to have it replastered!
Cheers Pete
 
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breezer

you will also have to dissconect the bell box battery, but you are still going to need a big junction box

(and number each cable twice with an indelable pen)
 
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You will get a much better connection if you solder new wires onto the end of the existing wires.
 
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that i agree with, but most dont like soldeing, which is why i never mentioned it. and it should idealy be heat shrink sleaved
 
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Cheers Breezer
Not sure if i explained clearly..............it was late! The control panel needs to be moved, at present all the sensor wires run in trunking down the wall and under the floor then routed to the various rooms/sensors.
What i am trying to acheive is to move the control panel to another wall , this in turn will make all the multicore wires approx 3 metres too short, hence the connector question.
If i turn off the power to the control panel, number each wire at the control box and under the floor then cut and connect the new wires do you forsee any problems?
I,d like to do this now as i,m in the process of laying new joists and flooring in the hallway and have good access at the moment , plus the control panel has to come off the wall to have it replastered!
Cheers Pete

the simplest way is power the panel down mains and batt. the outdoor sounder should sound due to loss of hold off voltage but time out after a max of 20mins ( assumeing system is to bs std. )

mark your cables as you suggest and use chockblock plastic connectors
twist each conductors together and put them in at the same end of the block

leave the blocks under the floorboards and run your new cable to the panel position.

try to avoid running cables along side mains conductors ( stay at least 6ins away and cross at rht angles )
 
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after you have moved your panel, depending on the make and model it may need re-programming.

so bare that in mind.
 
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why would the system possibly need reprogramming?

ive come across some systems that default themselves when all power is removed.

so his entry and exit timers, and zone attributes and user codes may change to back to default.
 
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i cant remember the exact panels.

but ive come across a few.

does it matter which ones they are? i was just warning him it may happen if its an old panel.

if the settings are stored in RAM they may be lost if the panel is powered down.
 
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breezer

alarm panels do not have RAM, ram is Random Access Memory, its what computers have, it needs to be powered to work

I believe you are thinkingh of an NVM, non volatile memory, it does not need to be powered to work

granted some of the recent panels do have a battery (button cell) to keep the memory working but that usually the big commerecial panels. npot domestic panels

If a domestic panel does default when moved, best option is to move it again to the bin, since it will do it again when it shouldn't.

I would say that peter1450 (the OP) has nothing to worry about in regard of the panel defaulting.
 
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sorry i tend to refer to NVM as RAM, how i was taught.

i was only giving some advice i wasnt saying it will do it i said it may if its an old panel
 
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you were taught wrong then.

you are also giving the OP wrong information and info / worry he does not need.
 

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