And There It Was........Gone!

[Brigadier]

I found it a little strange that these pet passports were for dogs, cats and ferrets. I've known a few people with ferrets, never heard of anyone taking them on holiday.

Support ferrets, perchance?

 

[johnny2007]

Paperwork and formalities. Which is always time limited, with no guarantee of being renewed or extended. So why would anyone invest in remaining in that one place? Your rights are severely curtailed. You no longer have the same rights as indigenous people. You no longer have the protection of the ECJ.
Retirement/holiday property might end up in disrepair if you are denied a visa.


Quite a whole new set of formalities.


You can no longer plan your life/travel further than two weeks ahead in case your vise is denied.

Visas are automatically issued unless you are potentially dangerous to society which is a good thing.
Like for anyone going anywhere in the world outside EU, unless you're a convicted criminal or part of a dodgy organisation, you will not have any problem obtaining a visa.
I travelled everywhere in the world and never been denied a visa.
In my younger days, I even stayed 6 months in USA helping out my uncle (an Italian immigrant) setting up a restaurant.
No problem for me or him or the rest of his family; he's still there.

Unless you buy a property in a warzone or China, no civilised nation will take that away from you and stop you accessing it.
If you think about it, if I bought a house in Spain and went there 6 months/year, I would be spending money and paying bills and tax.
Why on earth would any government stop me doing that?
Don't they like money???

 

[johnny2007]

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[Notch7]

Visas are automatically issued unless you are potentially dangerous to society which is a good thing.
Like for anyone going anywhere in the world outside EU, unless you're a convicted criminal or part of a dodgy organisation, you will not have any problem obtaining a visa.
I travelled everywhere in the world and never been denied a visa.
In my younger days, I even stayed 6 months in USA helping out my uncle (an Italian immigrant) setting up a restaurant.
No problem for me or him or the rest of his family; he's still there.

Unless you buy a property in a warzone or China, no civilised nation will take that away from you and stop you accessing it.
If you think about it, if I bought a house in Spain and went there 6 months/year, I would be spending money and paying bills and tax.
Why on earth would any government stop me doing that?
Don't they like money???

Go and look at the rules.

It's far harder to go and work or live in EU now.

And it's more expensive....so not exactly a win for the 'will of the people'

 

[johnny2007]

Go and look at the rules.

It's far harder to go and work or live in EU now.

And it's more expensive....so not exactly a win for the 'will of the people'

Total boll@x as usual.
Scaremongering at its best .
As said, unless you're a criminal, a visa will be issued in no time.
If you're unskilled and wanted to work cash in hands as a bodge builder so to undercut the locals and throw in the bin all workers' rights, you'd be struggling and that is a great result for everyone.
Just look at the building trade here in uk.
EU nationals working for less than minimum wage and without any regards for regulations.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

You can still retire wherever you want, just need a visa which is easy enough as you will have means to sustain yourself and a medical insurance.

Trouble is, many countries will set the sustainability level above your income level, even if you know you can live comfortably on your income. Also, for people who are in their 70s and 80s on retirement income, medical insurance may be unaffordable. In the past they could get an S1 form from DWP and claim reciprocal state medical treatment in any EU country. As I said in a previous post, the requirements for min income and especially medical insurance may prevent many ordinary people retiring abroad, but the wealthy will have no such probems. We have lost more than we think, and the realisation will dawn on some over the coming months and years.

 

[johnny2007]

In the past they could get an S1 form from DWP and claim reciprocal state medical treatment in any EU country.

This might still be the case.
Wait and see.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Trouble is, many countries will set the sustainability level above your income level, even if you know you can live comfortably on your income. Also, for people who are in their 70s and 80s on retirement income, medical insurance may be unaffordable. In the past they could get an S1 form from DWP and claim reciprocal state medical treatment in any EU country. As I said in a previous post, the requirements for min income and especially medical insurance may prevent many ordinary people retiring abroad, but the wealthy will have no such probems. We have lost more than we think, and the realisation will dawn on some over the coming months and years.

This might still be the case.
Wait and see.

Here in France CPAM (French equivalent of UK's NHS) only covers you up to about 70% or 80% of your costs. You're not obliged to take out additional insurance, but as far as I am aware, most expats do so.
I think some other costs are not covered, like prescription charges, which are not extortionate, at about 7€.
Obviously in the case of serious injuries or illnesses and the costs will soon mount.

With the additional insurance you have the options of private rooms, a bed for your partner/child/parent etc, teeth and eye care cover, an income while in hospital, etc.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

On a completely different note, just heard about a threatened import charge of £125 on a £200 laptop from ebay. I can't confirm the veracity of this claim. Just heard about it on an expat website.
Subsequent comments suggest it is because some components do not originate in UK, so tariffs are levied.
At this rate I can't see tariff free trade applying to much.

 

[Mottie]

On a completely different note, just heard about a threatened import charge of £125 on a £200 laptop from ebay. I can't confirm the veracity of this claim.

Well save your post until you can.

 

[johnny2007]

Here in France CPAM (French equivalent of UK's NHS) only covers you up to about 70% or 80% of your costs. You're not obliged to take out additional insurance, but as far as I am aware, most expats do so.
I think some other costs are not covered, like prescription charges, which are not extortionate, at about 7€.
Obviously in the case of serious injuries or illnesses and the costs will soon mount.

With the additional insurance you have the options of private rooms, a bed for your partner/child/parent etc, teeth and eye care cover, an income while in hospital, etc.

UK nationals will still be able to use their EHICs which will remain valid until they expire. The UK government says they will be replaced by a new UK Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC), but there are no further details yet on how to obtain it.

In any case, anyone travelling without insurance is a fool.
And for anyone emigrating, private insurance is not much to ask.
After all, why would any country take medical visitors in???
Medical care is not cheap.

 

[Mottie]

Here in France CPAM (French equivalent of UK's NHS) only covers you up to about 70% or 80% of your costs. You're not obliged to take out additional insurance, but as far as I am aware, most expats do so.

And what does the NHS afford French nationals in the UK?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

This might still be the case.
Wait and see.

Possibly, but far from guaranteed.

 

[Notch7]

In the minds of first class idiots!

lets explore that

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

And what does the NHS afford French nationals in the UK?

With an EHIC card issued from France, it gives them 100% cover on costs of treatment.
EHIC cards are not the sole preserve of UK.