And vice versa

[ban-all-sheds]

Ever seen people moaning that they don't like CFLs because the horrible light is too harsh and white?

For years I've had some R80 lights in which I've been using GE Genura lamps. They changed the design a while back - used to look like this:

Now look like this:

They look naff in my luminaires, and don't work so well as the beam is now too narrow. (Apparently that makes them more efficient, so they can continue to be sold. Yay - go legislation made by idiots.)

So when one failed, and I had no spare, I put in a 100W incandescent.

Don't like the light much - it's too yellow.

 

[SaladFingers]

I find the CLFs colour temp 827 is fine, seems cosy enough, not too clinical and white like the 835s are.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

827 is fine, that's mostly what I use.

I've got 835s in the kitchen, but they are behind frosted glass. We preferred them to 827 there even though at first they seemed a little harsh, but we soon got used to them.

The Genura lamp is 830, and with that as a baseline a regular incandescent does seem very yellow.

My experience, going in both directions, confirms what I've long suspected - it's not really the actual nature of the different light that people dislike, it's merely the fact that it is different that they moan about. I reckon the same would apply to start-up times as well. As long as a CFL is reasonably fast¹, and starts out reasonably close to full brightness¹, there is nothing wrong with it from a practical POV, but people still moan. I bet that if that had been the traditional behaviour of lamps, and then new-fangled tungsten halogen lighting came along, these same people would be moaning that they could not stand it because of the way it sprang instantly into full brightness without their eyes having time to adjust.




¹ Avoid Kosnic CFL R80s like the plague - I have one, and it starts out so dim you actually have to look directly at it to tell that it's on, and probably takes a minute to warm up.

 

[333rocky333]

Back in the 80's i recall an office reception full of recessed R80 spots and it was so dingy.
I talked them into 20 of them induction lamps I recall costing about £400 the difference was amazing.
The genura was ahead of its time and possibly one of the best whitish colour lamps around IMO
Not any more it seems

 

[EFLImpudence]

it's merely the fact that it is different that they moan about.

And, of course, the price.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I actually didn't mind paying £20 for Genuras, they were that good. It was nicer to find bargains on eBay though, which I did from time to time

 

[ricicle]

Avoid Kosnic lamps like the plague.

Kosnic lamps in general are rubbish. Their CFL (G24) lamps don't last very long, their halogen GLS lamps are equally short lived and nearly always take out the mcb when they blow and I agree with the warm up time of the CFLs as well