Andrew Bridgen

[Dork Lard]

Have you never come across a situation where one 'expert' disagrees with another 'expert' ?

Which expert are we expected to go with???

 

[denso13]

Which expert are we expected to go with???

The vast majority, not fringe views.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Have you never come across a situation where one 'expert' disagrees with another 'expert' ?

Which expert are we expected to go with???

I think it depends on whether its 1 expert versus 1 expert, or 1 expert versus hundreds or similar.

Then it comes down to the facts that can be checked.

Or are we talking just opinions ?

 

[Dork Lard]

The vast majority, not fringe views.

Like sheep do?

We outnumber you, we are legion.

 

[denso13]

Like sheep do?

Bingo! Again!

 

[denso13]

We outnumber you

Well yes, a basic understanding of English would suggest the plural word "we" is more than the singular "you". Is that what you meant?

 

[denso13]

we are legion.

Is that you Cleatus? Pmsl...

 

[Dork Lard]

I think it depends on whether its 1 expert versus 1 expert, or 1 expert versus hundreds or similar.

Then it comes down to the facts that can be checked.

Or are we talking just opinions ?

I listen to what both sides are saying. Then I hear that one sides opinion is being suppressed by the other side. Then I wonder why one side feels the need to suppress the other sides opinion.

Is the 'conspiracy' to make us think there's a conspiracy? Or is it an attempt to control the truth?

Almost everyone I know & converse with in the real world thinks that something VERY strange is happening in the world today & I don't know many folk who accept the 'official' narrative.

I have NEVER trusted my politicians & I know enough about 'Big Pharma' to know that they cannot be trusted either. I used to "trust" my doctor, that is now down the pan 'cos I "KNOW" that my doctors opinion has been censored.

 

[Notch7]

In 2001 a published Imperial college projection by Neil Ferguson sparked a mass culling of 11 million sheep and cattle during the foot-and-mouth disease.

In 2002 Neil Ferguson projected that 136'000 people would die from
mad cow disease. The government slaughtered millions of cows.
The total number of people who died was 177

Bird Flu (2005) epidemiologist and projection modeler Neil Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people would be killed from the bird flu.
In the end between 2003-2009 only 282 people died world wide! Most people would call this ( scaremongering) for the pharmaceutical companies to drum up business..

Swine flu 2009 Neil Ferguson predicted that swine flu would kill 65'000 people in the UK Total number of deaths 457

2020 Neil Ferguson predicted up to 2.2 million people would die of covid 19 in the United States alone

This is incorrect.

Imperial college did modelling with a range based on available data.

Youve simply picked the worst case scenario in that range and claimed it as “Neil Ferguson” predicted.


Its like saying: “worse case scenario; a meteorite will wipe out the world next year”

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I listen to what both sides are saying. Then I hear that one sides opinion is being suppressed by the other side. Then I wonder why one side feels the need to suppress the other sides opinion.

Is the 'conspiracy' to make us think there's a conspiracy? Or is it an attempt to control the truth?

Almost everyone I know & converse with in the real world thinks that something VERY strange is happening in the world today & I don't know many folk who accept the 'official' narrative.

I have NEVER trusted my politicians & I know enough about 'Big Pharma' to know that they cannot be trusted either. I used to "trust" my doctor, that is now down the pan 'cos I "KNOW" that my doctors opinion has been censored.

I too listen to both sides.

But only 1 side comes up with facts, the other side just keeps churning out conspiracy theories.

If the covid response, (specifically, but other issues too} had been just the UK response then I would accept some of the conspiracy theories might have a base. But when it happened world wide, slightly differently everywhere but a similar response, then I suggest unless there are any facts to support the theories, then that is all they are.

At the time of the initial covid occurence, there was genuine fear amongst health professionals as to how to cope, how to treat, and what to do. The lockdown and seperation policy gave breathing time to formulate a longer term plan, which appears to have got the situation back to somewhere near normal, the new normal. I don't believe any politician outright, I certainly don't trust Boris as far as I could throw him, but I do believe he acted responsibly towards the vaccine, and looking back, the lockdown was lifted as quickly as the vaccine changed the pressure on the health service.

Big companies make big profits, always have, always will. the working man pays for those profits, always has, always will. But I don't believe that it is a manufactured control system, or that the vaccine was or is worse than the virus.

 

[denso13]

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That one was too long, insults need to be short and catchy...

 

[carmanmemoranda]

This doesn't seem to be linked to the vaccine, more to the virus.

Covid: Nurses who died probably caught virus at work

Coroner Graeme Hughes concludes Gareth Roberts and Dominga David died of industrial disease.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Justin Passing]

I listen to what both sides are saying. Then I hear that one sides opinion is being suppressed by the other side. Then I wonder why one side feels the need to suppress the other sides opinion.

Is the 'conspiracy' to make us think there's a conspiracy? Or is it an attempt to control the truth?

Wouldn't you want to suppress people who know bugger all and talk poo just to big themselves up? Who frighten the ignorant?

People having a stupid dump on discussion disqualify themselves from being listened to. Then they wail that they're one side of an argument. Pathetic. As welcome as a turd on a dining table.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

You prefer the ministry of untruths ?

Don't say "untruths", The Ministry doesn't like you using unapproved words. The newspeak word is "Misinformation ".

There isn't a Ministry of Truth.

The British government is one big Ministry of Truth based on the Goebbels system.

Have you never come across a situation where one 'expert' disagrees with another 'expert' ?

Which expert are we expected to go with???

The expert from The Ministry of course!

How Peer Review Became Censorship – The Daily Sceptic

Lancet Editor Richard Horton has said: "We know that the system of peer review is biased, unjust, unaccountable, usually ignorant and frequently wrong." And that was before Covid came along.

dailysceptic.org

If the covid response, (specifically, but other issues too} had been just the UK response then I would accept some of the conspiracy theories might have a base.

The "UK response" was to copy what other countries were doing, it wasn't a product of original thought. Governments are sheeple too.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Youve simply picked the worst case scenario in that range and claimed it as “Neil Ferguson” predicted.

Yes, but the Government "simply picked" Ferguson's worst case scenarios too.