Another 'error' over housing by a Labour cabinet member.

[johnny2007]

Do you and your wife discuss all the arrangements in intricate details?
Or do you both have specialist areas where you just get on with the chores that need doing?
If your wife knows that you do the work, and it's her responsibility to ensure it's done, it would be strange if she did not remind you that it needed doing.
My accountant is excellent, she'll remind me when submissions, etc are due. When I've provided the figures I rely on her to submit them.
If she didn't submit them when she had agreed to do so, perhaps our contract would facilitate any claim against her for some breach of contract, or other.

One's responsibility cannot be discharged by delegating.
As you always quote shyte that you Google, you should know.
Unless as usual you're justifying wrongdoing.

Why have or use.a letting agent if they don't do the work expected

See above.

 

[Brigadier]

One's responsibility cannot be discharged by delegating.

Agree as a general principle but, in cases of complex details, there is some mitigation.

Plus, there is motive: if the intention is to deceive, delegation (to a competent delegate) is not what you'd do.

The intention to deceive would be "DIY, then feign ignorance after the fact".

 

[ellal]

And you ok with bullying and lies ? Turn a blind eye to them and it's ok ?

I think you'll find that most who turn a blind eye are bullies themselves and were themselves bullied...

It's a viscous circle of an inferiority complex and not having the wherewithal to deal with many of life's situations...

But to carry on the practice into a 7th or 8th decade of life is very sad indeed!

 

[Murdochcat]

You would, because you've decided on the guilt from the outset, and have been looking for the "evidence" ever since.

Er no ...................

Just your warped Leftie mind thinks this though

 

[carmanmemoranda]

One's responsibility cannot be discharged by delegating.
As you always quote shyte that you Google, you should know.
Unless as usual you're justifying wrongdoing.

See above.

Yes but, deliberate or not is the question

 

[johnny2007]

Yes but, deliberate or not is the question

We'll never know.

 

[Brigadier]

Er no ...................

Just your warped Leftie mind thinks this though

Whatever.

 

[motorbiking]

Which is not the same as knowing it all.

That's why the transaction was delegated.

And I stand by my thoughts in #9 of this thread.




Companies have "pre-pack" arrangements, so that they can fold, flip, and restart over a matter of hours.
It's SOP in some sectors.

So why can't our civil service have the same pre-pack arrangements, to stop these oversights once and for all?

Are they utterly inept, or is it a deliberate decision to leave pitfall after pitfall, to catch out people and generate some deflectionary smoke?

I would suggest its the responsibility of the party's advisors to make sure that at the very least those in cabinet affairs are in order.

I would not want tax payers money (civil services) assuming responsibility for politicians affairs. Otherwise surely its only fair for the state to provide me with a free advisor to help me with my tax return and business affairs.

 

[Brigadier]

I would suggest its the responsibility of the party's advisors to make sure that at the very least those in cabinet affairs are in order.

I agree.

I would not want tax payers money (civil services) assuming responsibility for politicians affairs. Otherwise surely its only fair for the state to provide me with a free advisor to help me with my tax return and business affairs.

A bit of false equivalence there: there's how many in the cabinet? Two dozen?

It doesn't help that the meeja, the opposition, and the tribal jump up and down at everything and anything as well.

I'm all for public scrutiny and accountability, but the calls for sacking - from both sides, every time the tiniest thing comes out - makes the farce that is PMQs look grown up.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I would suggest its the responsibility of the party's advisors to make sure that at the very least those in cabinet affairs are in order.

That may have occurred. And they might have been assured that it's all in hand. But it wasn't, due to an oversight by the agent.

 

[morqthana]

I think another normal conversation in the household would be "Darling, have they got that electrical safety certificate and letting licence yet - it’s going to be all over the news if they haven’t".

You don't think that she might just be the teensiest bit too busy to double check what her husband, a man capable enough to be a very senior civil servant, has done?

 

[morqthana]

yawn

Awww... ready for your morning nap?

 

[morqthana]

You would have thought that the “husband” would have been across this every day, to ensure it was done. It’s not like he’s short of brain cells.

Why the quote marks? Do you think he isn't really her husband?

And what's the point of paying a professional to provide a service which he has told you he would provide, and then spending your time being "across it every day"?

I would have thought that having the licence should have been in place before the tenant moved in, like the requirement for a gas safety check or an EICR

It would have been if the agent had done what he'd promised.

 

[aveatry]

Awww... ready for your morning nap?

Morq

 

[morqthana]

That may have occurred. And they might have been assured that it's all in hand. But it wasn't due to an oversight by the agent.

You really need to go back and put a comma after "wasn't".