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Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by ollski, 24 Dec 2016.

  1. ollski

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    As above really, just wondering what it entails and if anyone knows anywhere in the midlands I can do boats addon?
     
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    I always use TC Training in Birmingham.

    You want CCLP1/B

    http://www.tctraininglimited.co.uk

    Jon
     
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    EON used to have a training place where they might do it.

    Very well equipped and nice people!

    But don't know if they are still open.

    Somewhere like Walsall.

    I did my Warm Air there and a CPA1
     
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    Not the one in Kingswinford they went into after BG?, think it used to be part of Stourbridge college. I know that one has been shut a few years now.
     
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    Thanks Jon will call them in the new year. I've got all my lpg except this one and have never found a provider. I cant imagine theres much of an assesment to do on it just like closed gas fires I guess?
     
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    I don't remember exactly where it was.

    It was a very modern industrial building and very nicely set out.

    I think the idea was to train/assess all their own staff and do a few independents as well.

    I came across them at a stand at the Ricoh exhibition on a stand at Cov.
     
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    Because of the vibration and the danger of LPG in boats I would expect there is quite a lot of new things.

    There is also the Inland Waterways Boat Inspector.

    I used to know an idiot called Dave Tucker who was qualified as one!

    All boats have to be inspected I think every year and that means a lot of work.

    But many boat yards have their own qualified inspector on their staff.
     
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    LPG bits of boat inspections!



    Boats with LPG (butane and propane) aboard


    If your vessel has gas aboard, please remember to prepare the vessel before its examination and ensure there is a supply of gas ready for the examiner to undertake the checks.

    LPG cylinder lockers - boat owners must ensure the BSS Examiner can carry out careful checking of the LPG cylinder locker for condition, including the removal of all loose portable items, base protection mats, removable false floors and the temporary removal of connected LPG cylinders.

    Discuss your LPG cylinder locker arrangements with your examiner in advance of the examination as this may require your attendance or you to make prior arrangements involving service agents.

    LPG lockers not accessible enough to allow an assessment of condition will involve the BSS Examiner having to return to carry out the check with the obstruction removed.

    The BSS Examination includes checks on any LPG system covering aspects of the storage of gas cylinders, gas system and the connections to gas appliances.

    The complete set of checks can be read in Chapter 7 of the BSS Examination Checking Procedures (See page 41 of the PDF file).

    Here is a diagramtic description of the BSS requirements linked to a boats LPG system. The numbers refer to the chapters and section in the BSS ECPs refered to in the link above.

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    How do we check your boat is free from gas leaks?
    The BSS examination includes a test that checks that the gas system is free from leaks i.e the gas tightness-test.

    However, we would like to stress that the system should be gas-tight (not leaking) all times, not just when the BSS examination is due.

    For boat owners the simplest way of having that assurance is to install a bubble tester and use it routinely. The examiner can also use this device to check the system is gas tight too, if it is installed correctly.

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    Where a bubble tester isn't fitted, the BSS Examiner must use a device called a manometer, this has to be connected to a gas test point.

    The test point is simply a threaded opening into the gas system. It is sealed by a screw action nipple. To test the system, the nipple is undone, the manometer is connected up, the test is carried out, the manometer is then disconnected and the nipple is tightened back down. It is tightened sufficiently to seal the test point once more to prevent a gas leak, but not so tight as to damage the seal and cause a gas leak.

    Who can carry out BSS Examinations on your boat?
    All BSS examiners are trained and assessed in the same way to carry out checks of the gas system and to be competent undertake gas-tightness tests with manometers or with bubble-testers. They are quality assessed and have to undergo periodic retraining and assessment.

    However, the use of a boat, affects its status under UK gas legistation, as follows:-

    Privately owned boats used solely for leisure and pleasure purposes

    If your boat is used by you for private leisure and pleasure use, all BSS Examiners can legally carry out a full boat safety scheme examination including checking by manometer that the gas system does not leak - the tightness-test.
     
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    I don't know if this has changed but lpg used to be stored outside in a locker with ventilation holes
    drilled in the doors.
     
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    on a boat needs to be in separate place open like bows or stern.
     
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    From my untrained eye.
    I have seen low level ventilation holes in the gas bottle lockers on many boats off of the south coast, the lockers are normally midships or very close to the wheelhouse.
    You cant beat a bit of wreck fishing! :)

    And one of the safety warnings given in the briefing by the skipper before you leave port is " I also have a bottle of o2 aboard for the divers, If we catch fire chuck it over the side"
     
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    Be aware that this is change-over from natural gas to lpg boats. As you are already lpg qualified OP then the course I pointed you too is the one you want.

    I will be doing mine sometime around the summer if you are about.

    Jon
     
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    Do you guys really get calls to boats?

    Apart from being asked about doing the BBC Club narrow boats, when I was on their management committee, I don't think that I have ever been asked to do any work on boats.

    Tony
     
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    My BIL is a HVAC engineer and Yottie, he cruises round and when he berths at a marina, hangs a sign-written board over the side of the boat. Being very affable he wanders round getting into conversation with owners.

    He is in Oz so does some work on the aircon of floating gin palaces.
     
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