Anyone recommend dimmable mini gu10 lamps

[JohnW2]

Unbelievable

... and, as far as I can make out, just plain wrong (aka 'lies')

Kind Regards, John

 

[winston1]

Where does "11.42" come from? - I'm looking at 9:02 to 10:42 - which is 100 minutes, or 1.67 hours.

But there was no pedant at 10:42.

 

[JohnW2]

But there was no pedant at 10:42.

I do not regard eric as a pedant.

 

[bernardgreen]

But there was no pedant at 10:42

Oh yes there was

Anyone recommend dimmable mini gu10 lamps
That is correct. Ideally of course MR11 GU10, to avoid confusion with MR11 with another base.
Post by: winston1, Yesterday at 10:42 AM in forum: Electrics UK
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[winston1]

There is nothing pedantry about the truth.

 

[JohnW2]

There is nothing pedantry about the truth.

"Pedantic" generally refers to things which are true, but which are (what can I say? ) pedantic! If things are not true, then they are just "lies".

Of course, there are some people who (on different occasions) are both pedants and liars.

 

[SUNRAY]

Wrong actually, explain what the "MR" stands for, the majority of led lamps until recently are not "MR".
They all are a retrofit for a MR11 lamp, subject to control gear compatibility, but a majority are just a plain 35mm lamp

Although strictly speaking winston1 is wrong, on this ocassion, despite being one of his strong critics, I find myself having to come down on his side. Like so many things existing terms or names are often retained when the product is changed. A similar example is PAR, I have PAR64 & PAR56 LED light fittings, described by the manufacturers as such, known industry wide as such and accepted by all and sundry as such. Just as the MR description the 64 & 56 refer to the diameter in ⅛'s ie 64x⅛=8" & 56x⅛=7" but PAR stands for Parabolic Aluminium Reflector (there are variations on this as the products altered over the years but no need to get into further discussion) and the LED units nave no reflector just as the LED MR versions.
Elsewhere we use historic and incorrect terms without issue like a ceiling rose or these being called RJ45

, I don't see why MR should be picked on.

 

[JohnW2]

Although strictly speaking winston1 is wrong, on this ocassion, despite being one of his strong critics, I find myself having to come down on his side. Like so many things existing terms or names are often retained when the product is changed.

As I've often said, I have considerable sympathy with a good few of winston's pet topics - so, for example, I would also be much happier if SMPSUs were not called 'transformers' and we didn't have a 'nominal supply voltage' which differs significantly from the actually supply voltage that the great majority of UK installations receive etc. etc.

However, these situations exist, and the thing which I do not have any sympathy with is 'going on and on' about things that none of us can hope to change.

There are, of course, also a good few things about which I very much disagree with him, but that does not alter the above.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Taylortwocities]

I don’t disagree with much of what Winston says. It is just that it does not need to be said. It usually adds zero to helping out the OP.

In fact, as in this case, his worthless interjections means that the original query, and any solution, is buried by the avalanche of responses he sets off.

In my opinion, if only - such as he - could post helpful comment the whole forum would be a brighter place.

 

[JohnW2]

I don’t disagree with much of what Winston says. It is just that it does not need to be said. It usually adds zero to helping out the OP.

Agreed. That's essentially the same as what I wrote earlier.

In fact, as in this case, his worthless interjections means that the original query, and any solution, is buried by the avalanche of responses he sets off.

Quite so.

In my opinion, if only - such as he - could post helpful comment the whole forum would be a brighter place.

It would indeed.

Kind Regards, John

 

[winston1]

I don’t disagree with much of what Winston says. It is just that it does not need to be said. It usually adds zero to helping out the OP.

In fact, as in this case, his worthless interjections means that the original query, and any solution, is buried by the avalanche of responses he sets off.

In my opinion, if only - such as he - could post helpful comment the whole forum would be a brighter place.

Had you not posted this insulting comment:

waits for unhelpful input from resident pedant.

There would not have been an avalanche of responses.

My input was not unhelpful and was in addition to a comment already posted.

Don’t blame me for an avalanche of responses that YOU set off. An apology will be accepted.

 

[winston1]

As I've often said, I have considerable sympathy with a good few of winston's pet topics - so, for example, I would also be much happier if SMPSUs were not called 'transformers' and we didn't have a 'nominal supply voltage' which differs significantly from the actually supply voltage that the great majority of UK installations receive etc. etc.

However, these situations exist, and the thing which I do not have any sympathy with is 'going on and on' about things that none of us can hope to change.

I disagree. If enough people tell these idiots that use wrong terms that they are wrong the message will eventually get through.

 

[JohnW2]

I disagree. If enough people tell these idiots that use wrong terms that they are wrong the message will eventually get through.

I share you wish that it would/could, but that's not going to happen.

It's also worth noting that, even when people have good points to make, if they keep 'going on and on' about them, that's usually a sure way to 'turn people off' and make it even less likely that they will ever get any message.

 

[RobTi]

Can I just update, at the price I think it will just be simple non dimmable led’s now as I need 14 plus a couple as spares, should have checked before removing all my 12v ones

 

[bernardgreen]

If enough people tell these idiots that use wrong terms

Calling them idiots will irritate them and make them far less likely to accept advice.