Architects Drawings

[angelboy]

Unless you're having some unique materials or specialist building methods then you wouldn't need working drawings.......unless your builder doesn't know what he's doing either!

Sounds like, though, you just have planning permission drawings and not building regulation drawings. Like has been said, if there's a doubt the you might not obtain planning then you wouldn't provide building regs drawings as its a waste of money. If your architect is pretty confident that your plans will pass then he could provide one set of detailed building regs plans and submit them for both.

But your builder still needs a set of building regulations plans and local councils pretty much expect a full plans application these days anyway.

 

[^woody^]

Unless you're having some unique materials or specialist building methods then you wouldn't need working drawings

How does the builder price for the work? How does he know what materials to order? How does he know what construction methods are to be used? How does he know how big to build the thing and put the right things in the right places? How does the client know that the work will be constructed correctly?

You are talking balls. Crystal balls.

 

[noseall]

Unless you're having some unique materials or specialist building methods then you wouldn't need working drawings.......unless your builder doesn't know what he's doing either!

You know very little about the building trade.

 

[angelboy]

Unless you're having some unique materials or specialist building methods then you wouldn't need working drawings

How does the builder price for the work? How does he know what materials to order? How does he know what construction methods are to be used? How does he know how big to build the thing and put the right things in the right places? How does the client know that the work will be constructed correctly?

You are talking balls. Crystal balls.

Unless you're having some unique materials or specialist building methods then you wouldn't need working drawings.......unless your builder doesn't know what he's doing either!

You know very little about the building trade.

Building regs drawings have everything you need to quote from - dimension and specs so what's your beef?

In my neck of the woods, working drawings are construction details - you don't need them if you're a good enough builder.

The exact point I was making.

 

[^woody^]

Working drawings are as much for the client's benefit as the builders. They denote performance of the clients requirements, and provide certainty in the contract.

It's nothing to do with how good a builder is.

 

[angelboy]

Tosh. A good builder can and does work from building regs drawings. The builder can then provide a performance contract with the client. You don't let the architects dictate your performance do you? No, I doubt it. In fact I very much doubt it - you can't take another perspective from folks on here never mind on the job!

I've put up several new builds with only building regs drawings and a great team of lads.

So it can be done, it is done and it will continue to be done!

 

[^woody^]

Landording and now building. Put the guide books on your Christmas list. Come back in January.

 

[Nakajo]

Veering wildly off-topic... this is a DIY site, so I would imagine that there are people here used to building from limited information. However, typically, where a specification and contract are provided, that specification will have been prepared by an architect and will specify the scope and quality of the work expected. The contract will then be administered by the contract administrator, who will most certainly 'dictate performance' as part of their role. Invariably, that architect and that contract administrator will be one and the same person.

 

[^woody^]

When a typical person wants an extension, they will need to have it designed, specified and built to their requirements. That almost invariably requires drawings to work to.

Yes, the extension could be PD, and it could be done on a notice, so no drawings for that stage. And it could then be built by a clued up person without drawings. That is a significantly risky thing for the client and builder. It's making it up as it's built, and that is not how anyone should be carrying out building work.

But to suggest to the OP or anyone reading this that working drawings are not required unless for specific materials or specialist building method is total nonsense.

 

[Millwright]

The long shot of this is that any more drawings needed, I'll do them myself.

It took the architect over three months to make this basic elevations drawings, he did so much, then wanted paying, then didn't return a single email or phone call (bisiness phone) for three months until he was traced to his home, as that was the only way of contacting him next before instructing a solicitor (as I were worried I'd been done, as I'd paid him, then never heard from him for months) only then did he get my drawings done. I would never use him again and it beggars belief if he ever gets recommendations.

 

[angelboy]

Landording and now building. Put the guide books on your Christmas list. Come back in January.

I've got plenty more to add to that list but it seems I'm already making you feel a touch inadequate.

Some people do, others sit on a forum and tell others what to do......

 

[tony1851]

You've done it now!

 

[angelboy]

You've done it now!

I've eaten bigger for breakfast!

 

[^woody^]

Some people do, and like to tell others what they do ... will do, did do, might do, have done, have done magnificently, do and do and dooby-doo-wop-be-diddley-doo.

And yet it's all doggy doo, and just won't do.

Others do do, and know how to do too.

 

[^woody^]

You've done it now!

I've eaten bigger for breakfast!

Whole, sideways and without chewing no doubt. Why am I not surprised.