Are these old bulkhead light fittings replaceable with LED?

[morqthana]

He says he's in Hertfordshire.

 

[ericmark]

Eric (above) made an interesting contribution on the issue. Fine.

Voltage? Irrelevant. The components in different countries will be matched. The principles of operation are what are important.
Regulations? This is a DIY forum. People want to have a go at things themselves. It's not a help-me-contact-a-tradie forum.
Dimensions? Irrelevant. Unless you mean that some LED tubes won't fit the old fluro lamp.

Voltage is not irrelevant, in this country to get fluorescent lights to work on 110 volts we used an auto transformer to raise the voltage to 240 volts. The YouTube video shows, in the USA, they used a different method to get a fluorescent light to fire and run.

Dimensions are also not irrelevant, the 2D lamp is converted in a completely different way to the standard fluorescent tube, I had not considered it could be a 2D unit, and these can be converted without removing an electronic ballast.

As to "It's not a help-me-contact-a-tradie forum." there has to be some balance, and the comments over insurance in a building with public access do need to be made, as an electrician, but employed as a fitter, to give me extra pay, this did cause problems with insurance which had not been considered when I signed the contract, and I had to be accompanied by a guy employed as an electrician to comply with insurance, really felt sorry for him, as he had not a clue about what I was doing. I was employed in the main to look after a 250 ton straddle carrier, and needed knowledge of more than just electrics.

However, we have also shown how the LED tubes can be used. I do question the idea of a non-replaceable lamp without tools, when a fluorescent tube falls, we can unclip a cover and renew the tube without requiring any tools, and reasonably quickly, and one would think that is important when a failure can cause the business to close until repaired.

There is no reason why plugs and socket should not be fitted,

so a whole lamp can be quickly changed, but it does depend on the ceiling, great with a suspended ceiling, but dentists are allowed to trade from a private house, same with doctors and solicitors, most other trades not allowed. So can see how one would want to keep to easy replaceable lamps.

 

[ericmark]

He says he's in Hertfordshire.

Who

I have looked at the pictures again, the lights are specials and are designed with reflectors to minimise the stroboscopic effect, seem to remember CAT something, and I can't remember exactly, but there is a problem with LED, and I would need to do some research to know what is required with LED.

 

[morqthana]

He says he's in Hertfordshire.

Who

Who?

The OP asking about the lights...

 

[Why Not Indeed]

Dimensions? Irrelevant. Unless you mean that some LED tubes won't fit the old fluro lamp.

If the existing fixture is a standard size, then it's likely that drop-in replacements exist, which someone could suggest to the OP if we knew the dimensions.

Eric (above) made an interesting contribution on the issue. Fine.

@ericmark see, someone appreciates you

 

[ericmark]

A CAT 2 fluorescent light is a fluorescent light fitting that uses a Category 2 (CAT 2) louvre to minimise glare and reflections onto computer screens. The louvre, which is often a cross-blade or parabolic type, is designed to control light output and improve visibility in office, school, and retail environments, though modern versions often use energy-saving LEDs.

I note same with LED, so not sure if you can get an integral lamp with the same?

 

[Ragnar_AT]

These lights are all over the continent, 2x36 W/1200 mm tubes.

 

[sparkymarka]

A rather silly, and entirely pointless reply.

The fittings are not familiar to the British eye, which suggests the OP might be anywhere in the world.

I take you don’t get out much ….seen loads of these fittings around the uk ..

 

[Ron0z]

I take you don’t get out much ….seen loads of these fittings around the uk ..

I think Harry misunderstood my comment.

Voltage is irrelevant because someone replacing a light bulb will go to their local lighting shop, supermarket, or hardware store, etc., for a replacement, which will only sell products suitable for the local electrical network. You can't buy a US-made bulb in the UK. (Well, if you can it would be weird.) The store owner would raise an eyebrow if you asked for a voltage different from the supply voltage. Therefore, voltage is irrelevant.

The same situation with size. If the new bulb is being purchased locally, as was the old bulb, the size will be the same.

Though, Harry made a reasonable point about regulations. But rather than referring people to trades all the time, folks generally like to learn how things work. There is also the notion of capability. Some of us are more confident/capable than others. If someone is clever enough to go to uni and study dentistry, for example, they can probably figure out a few wiring details that relate to an old fluro lamp. Albeit with a bit of help. It's then up to them as to whether they call in a sparky or do the job themselves.

 

[morqthana]

It's then up to them as to whether they call in a sparky or do the job themselves.

HSE might disagree.

Their insurer might disagree.

Their landlord might disagree.

 

[Ron0z]

Good points. But only the OP knows who owns the building. The landlord, if there is one, might not give two hoots. And if the landlord is paying for electricity might welcome their idea.

 

[big-all]

I think Harry misunderstood my comment.

Voltage is irrelevant because someone replacing a light bulb will go to their local lighting shop, supermarket, or hardware store, etc., for a replacement, which will only sell products suitable for the local electrical network. You can't buy a US-made bulb in the UK. (Well, if you can it would be weird.) The store owner would raise an eyebrow if you asked for a voltage different from the supply voltage. Therefore, voltage is irrelevant.

The same situation with size. If the new bulb is being purchased locally, as was the old bulb, the size will be the same.

Though, Harry made a reasonable point about regulations. But rather than referring people to trades all the time, folks generally like to learn how things work. There is also the notion of capability. Some of us are more confident/capable than others. If someone is clever enough to go to uni and study dentistry, for example, they can probably figure out a few wiring details that relate to an old fluro lamp. Albeit with a bit of help. It's then up to them as to whether they call in a sparky or do the job themselves.

my thoughts
the internet where many will shop relies on exact input for accurate results being a possibility being clouded by lack off care or actual standards by the seller for safe and long life being possible but very often standards are off no interest to the seller ------but just a thought ??

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Voltage is irrelevant because someone replacing a light bulb will go to their local lighting shop, supermarket, or hardware store, etc., for a replacement, which will only sell products suitable for the local electrical network.

Posters are able to say they are absolutely anywhere in the world, it's no guarantee that they are in the UK, even if their profile suggests that. That limited photo, suggested they were not common in the UK, so it's always worthwhile confirming that.

The same situation with size. If the new bulb is being purchased locally, as was the old bulb, the size will be the same.

It was impossible to guess the size of tube, or their number, from such a poor photo.

Though, Harry made a reasonable point about regulations. But rather than referring people to trades all the time, folks generally like to learn how things work.

Always best to ascertain a poster's level of skill, before jumping in with advice - it avoids a poster electrocuting themselves, flooding the building, or setting fire to it.

Even more important in this instance, because it would seem to be a commercial business.

 

[Why Not Indeed]

That limited photo, suggested they were not common in the UK, so it's always worthwhile confirming that.

I reckon that photo shows a poster saying "Medical emergencies in the dental practice" with "<unreadable> NHS" next to that, so probably in the UK.
Who knows if the OP will ever come back!

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

<unreadable> NHS" next to that, so probably in the UK.

If it's unreadable, just how did you read it

Who knows if the OP will ever come back!