argi

[Flistz]

Feel better after that rhapsody, Mr Liszt? Since you are so partial to bandying insults around, perhaps you will find the ARGI site more to your liking.

Just another sad group of plumbers, I'm afraid. looked in a time or two, not much interest to gas engineers.

Franz

 

[chrishutt]

Well that narrows who you really are down a bit, thank you Franz. Obviously not an aficionado of ARGI, but a member and therefore an RGI despite what you say, otherwise you wouldn't know the site. But my principal suspect would surely know how to spell Liszt, not to mention greedy, so I'm still in the dark. Care to give us any more clues?

 

[Flistz]

I would not normally get involved in plumbrs' squabbles. I have to deal with their cock-ups on a daily basis, which is more than enough for me, but I have been asked by a friend to express my opinion on the 13 pages of comments that have been written.

For 15 years there has been a free-for-al in the gas industry, with anyone who cared to be listed able to get on the register of gas installers. We have a situation whereby you can now change your profession on a whim, even the Institute of Plumbers have done a make-over to foll thepublic by calling themselves heating engineers. Surely that should be jack of all, master of none!

It would seem that quite a few spokespersons for plumbers have expressed a view about what others have not done to improve their businesses. I've not seen much mentioned about what individuals have or are doing to alleviate their own problems. I can't imagine how the vast majority of plumbers stay in business if they always need others to wipe their arse for them.

Corgi have got it about right in delaing with the plumber's groups, string em along and watch them disintegrate through their own members self interest. Divide and rule has always been a good ploy and with a fragmented industry with lots of ineffectual little plumbers groups it will be easy to implement more regulatry shackels.

Your group of mottley plumbers may be a bit different and be effective. At least you have a prime candidate for mottley fool in that Agile fella. At least it should give some amusement for the rest of the gas industry.

Of course plumbers will huff and puff a bit but we all know in the industry that they will meakly comply without much of a fight because the self interest kicks in, handing the regulators an easy victory.

Im sorry I cannot continue this debate but enough of my valuable time is already taken up with sorting plumber's problems and I don't intend to make my life harder trying to educate people who have no consept of solidarity.

prefer a proper union than relying on self interested self employed free loaders, but when you guys is down your end of the trade, you should be gratefull for what you can get.
And I still cant get into that argi site

Keith aka Franz

 

[chrishutt]

Keith, that was quite a tour de force (your alter ego will understand that - French was his preferred language). You made some good points, especially about the lack of solidarity and the bickering. Made me think (no small achievement).

 

[Softus]

The IPHE is recognised worldwide, the IPHE is also recognised by the British public...

If you think that the British public cares one iota about the IPHE then you live in a very strange universe.

And if you think that customers' views of the IPHE are irrelevant then you have a very odd view of running a business.

Please do not let this thread degenerate into personal insults!

Moderators used to be allowed to abuse, insult and bully anyone they liked - have the rules changed?

get knotted yer southern t****r

we made you on the ARGI site you have spoken to me

go away and come back when you start making sense

oh yeah take all the pricks in the iphe with you icon_roll

we never needed that shower and we still don't

so go blow it out yer ass

Apparently not.

Well thirteen pages of ARGI type "discussion" indicates that its certainly popular!

By that token, so too is racism.

 

[billy bob]

The IPHE is recognised worldwide, the IPHE is also recognised by the British public...

If you think that the British public cares one iota about the IPHE then you live in a very strange universe.

And if you think that customers' views of the IPHE are irrelevant then you have a very odd view of running a business.

Please do not let this thread degenerate into personal insults!

Moderators used to be allowed to abuse, insult and bully anyone they liked - have the rules changed?

get knotted yer southern t****r

we made you on the ARGI site you have spoken to me

go away and come back when you start making sense

oh yeah take all the pricks in the iphe with you icon_roll

we never needed that shower and we still don't

so go blow it out yer ass

Apparently not.

Well thirteen pages of ARGI type "discussion" indicates that its certainly popular!

By that token, so too is racism.

What has this reply got to do with the topic.

 

[Bahco]

Welcome back Softus.

 

[Softus]

Thank you Bahco.
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get knotted yer southern t****r

Softus, there will not be any personal abuse allowed on these forums from moderators or posters!

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What has this reply got to do with the topic.

Everything. But to continue your point, why do you think this topic belongs in P&CH instead of Trade Talk?

 

[Softus]

Don't take this personally, M7, but I'm not really very cheered by your undertaking, since your post asserting 'no abuse' ("there will not be any personal abuse...") was in direct reply to my post that contained some quoted abuse.

Notwithstanding that, you've also missed my underlying point, which is that I've never seen the slightest attempt to moderate the abusive posts made by "MOD 2". It would be a mistake to let the recent marital revelry distract from the fact that he is responsible for a huge amount of abuse and bullying that, until a few months ago, littered the P&CH and GD fora.

 

[DIYnot]

For reference, Mod2 is no longer moderating on DIYnot.

 

[Softus]

I take the point, and yet the threatening and bigoted posts appear to continue.

Fear not - that's all I have to say, so I shall now shut up about it.

 

[chrishutt]

For reference, Mod2 is no longer moderating on DIYnot.

What? No more outbursts of northern bile? No more arbitrary deletions of posts? DIYnot will never be the same.

Poor old kev, first he's barred from ARGI and now deposed as a DIYnot mod. The drink problem can only get worse.

 

[mlb3c]

poor old kev is laying in the states in 80 deg of sun sucker

personally i dont give a toss where i am banned from

you and your mates might not like my point of veiw but you cant shut me up

and as for a drink problem its only a problem to the idiots that cant hold it

most of who are in your neck of the woods bonny lad


kevplumb / AKA deefa

 

[mlb3c]

suprise suprise no reply

 

[gas4you]

Have a drink for me Kev, I'm certainly having a few for you