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Asbestos in storage heaters

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by Al78, 30 Jun 2017.

  1. Al78

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    Afternoon all,

    Having used this site to identify some old storage heaters in a house we are buying as Dimplex XT models, that don't contain asbestos (also confirmed by the asbestos contractors website), I opened one up to dismantle before taking it all to the tip.

    Got a mild shock when I saw the insulation inside. One type white and fluffy like fibreglass and one harder.

    If these aren't asbestos, does anyone know what they are?

    Cheers,

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    Ask Dimplex.
     
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    Possibly Ceramic Fibre. Used in boiler insulation to replace asbestos, mind you it is so similar in appearance and make up, being a silicate that I don't trust it myself.
    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck.............;)
     
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  6. As you've alread opened it up, and damage from breathing it in will already have been done, so maybe wet it with a spray bottle, and carry on removing it carfeully.

    Then it's very likely made from reconsituted chicken in todays marketing free for all.
     
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    Or if it is a duck, then sadly it may look like one and quack like one, but probably never had the chance to swim like one - almost all commercially reared ducks are kept in cruel conditions without access to open water.
     
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    Thanks all. Dimplex confirm it's not asbestos, but nor will they tell me what it is. Oh well.

    I've got 7 of them to dismantle so I'll nab a full face mask from work to be on the safe side and crack on :D
     
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    Is there some reason why you are going for total disassembly?

    Removing the outer cover and the inner front panel is sufficient to allow the bricks to be taken out, the rest is a lightweight empty box which can be disposed of as is.
     
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    The insulation in this particular model is in contact with the bricks and is quite loose - pulling any of the bricks out brings a load of fluff etc. with it. If I can leave all the insulation in the box I will, and just bag each unit up before going to the tip.
     
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    Do you have any statement in writing from Dimplex confirming that it is not asbestos?

    I ask because (and you may well already have thought of this) if you turn up at the tip with bags of that stuff, if the staff notice they might be as 'worried'/suspicious about it as you initially were!

    Kind Regards, John
     
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    Then it'll be delicious roasted and served with hoi sin sauce, cucumber and pancakes?
     
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    They are ceramic wool and ceramic slab, both modern non asbestos insulation materials. They are used for high temp applications, heaters, steam pipes (preformed), ships exhausts etc
    It is sometimes referred to as the 'new asbestos' because when the binder breaks down the fibres acts like asbestos fibres.
     
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    I presume not in the lungs?

    Kind Regards, John
     
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    There has not been enough research done on the material yet to determine either way, apparently the binders break down above 1000c so anything below that is
    likely to remain stable.
     
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    Interesting. I presume that work has been done on the fibres themselves, to (hopefully) confirm that they don't have the same carcinogenic potential as asbestos ones?

    Kind Regards, John
     
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