Best lining paper?

[rivergo1d]

Hi
Having had bad experiences with lining paper in the past, I am prepared to pay a little more for paste-the-wall paper of good gauge which will not show the seams readily.

Does anyone have any recommendations about Wall Doctor paper (well reviewed in Homebase and B&Q) versus Trend non-woven lining paper?

Besides no seams, would also like a really smooth finish if possible, again not sure how these two papers compare.

And finally, forgot to mention my previous problem was with bubbles under the paper both before and after painting.

THanks!

 

[StephenW]

If it's of any use to you, I used B&Q Value 1000 grade lining paper, pasted each piece, left it to soak for about 10 minutes and hung it (on pre-sized walls). Once dried I emulsioned it. You'd be hard pushed to find the joins unless you looked really closely and the finish looks good.

 

[rivergo1d]

Thanks, it was B&Q value I used many years ago. Besides seam problems - because I had a poor wall and tried stretching the paper at seams - I also had many, many problems with bubbles in the paper.

 

[vibrobullit407]

The bubbles will have been caused by either missing bits when pasting or by not sizing the wall well enough meaning that the paste had been absorbed by the wall instead of adhering the lining paper. I tend to use dulux lining paper due to it being more easily available dur to location but have used other cheaper brands with the same success. Suppose practice makes perfect so to speak.

 

[misterhelpful]

Wallrock make good paste-the-wall lining papers which are non woven and so eliminate (in most cases) any joins showing.

Their Fibreliner is very hardwearing but, as it's name suggests, has a bit of a fibrous texture.

Their Premium paper is super smooth and will give a fabulous finish if you are after plaster like results.

Both are available in wider than standard rolls which also reduces the number of joins you need (Bonus! ) but are also quite thick and stiff, which can sometimes make them a little tricky to cut in/around awkward areas.

As with all brands, they recommend that you use their own 'Power Adhesive' but I mostly use a good quality ready mixed paste or All purpose Solvite, mixed a little thicker than recommended on the packet.

You can order free samples via this site:

http://www.coveryourwall.co.uk/category/Wallrock_Premium,i.html

 

[rivergo1d]

Thanks, have requested a sample from them. The reviews of Wall Doctor also talk about it being plaster smooth so I will keep an open mind and get some of that too. If the finish of Wall Doctor is comparable to Wallrock Premier I may just try try Wall Doctor as it is more widely available ... but will be interesting to compare the two.

 

[emilybronte]

I've used Wallrock and it's the biz.

 

[oldgreymouse]

rivergold, if you had bad problems with bubbles under the paper and you had sized the walls, were you using a brush to paste the paper or the roller?
Using a roller helps prevents dry spots on the paper.

Also, if I want to make sure all the joins are gone on lining paper, I use a soft mix of Interior Toupret filler, but you have to be really quick down the joints and not go over a second time. To keep it super smooth, finish with a very fine powder paper before painting.
Only ever used solvite, tried a few others but found them lumpy even after a good mix.

 

[rivergo1d]

Thanks, I was using a brush for the paper.

For paste-the-wall paper, should the paste go on with a brush or a roller? (If roller, any particular kind?) I presume there's no sizing to be done for paste-the-wall paper ...

 

[vibrobullit407]

Thanks, I was using a brush for the paper.

For paste-the-wall paper, should the paste go on with a brush or a roller? (If roller, any particular kind?) I presume there's no sizing to be done for paste-the-wall paper ...

Sizing should still be applied before pasting the wall for these types of paper. The size is there to act like a primer so to speak and to stop the paste from just soaking into the porus surface.

As for what to use to paste then that is personal preference. I tend to use an old 4" emulsion brush. Be sure to cover all of the wall when sizing and pasting as any missed parts will bubble.

 

[rivergo1d]

I am planning on using solvite paste-the-wall paste powder, not that much difference in cost between it and shed brands.

When sizing, can I just dilute down this normal solvite mix rather than buying specialist size? If so, how much more dilute than normal application should it be?

 

[oldgreymouse]

Just to add, yes an old 4" soft brush for size is good to run round the edges and into the corners and fiddle bits. I then use a smooth 9" roller to size the main big walls, but then go to a medium pile for the pasting the paper on the table, it leaves a bit extra on the paper.

 

[rivergo1d]

Just an update, got the samples of Wallrock Fibreliner and Premium through.

The Premium is extremely similar to the Wall Doctor stuff available from the sheds, very smooth, hardly fibrous. How much better or worse Wallrock goes on the wall versus walldoctor I don't know, as it's only a sample size, but in terms of texture they seem virtually identical and a world apart from Fibreliner.

 

[misterhelpful]

How much better or worse Wallrock goes on the wall versus walldoctor I don't know, as it's only a sample size, but in terms of texture they seem virtually identical and a world apart from Fibreliner.

I can't offer advice on the Walldoctor as I've never used it but the Wallrock Premium does go up well although, as I mentioned earlier, it is a little stiff.
I agree about the Fibreliner, but it is extremely hardwearing.