boiler istalation

[muckylugs]

WHY WILL NO CORGI PLUMBER ANSWER THE INITAL QUESTION WHY CAN YOU NOT FIT THE WATER SIDE OF A FIX AND A CORGI PLUMBER DO THE GAS AND SIGN THAT SIDE OF THE FIX OF AND ONLY THAT SIDE WHAT ARE THE SAFETY ISSUES CONCERNED WITH THE WATER SIDE?

 

[kevplumb]

1 no need to shout
cos the body that oversees these things say its a gas appliance

end of

why not ask corgi or the hse or fat bl**dy two jags prescott

 

[Noraslad]

If the Corgi doesn't do the water side how does he know that the system has been, flushed, etc properly. If the water in the system ain't correct and boiler goes wrong manufacturer is going to blame installer.

WHO'S THE GUY THAT SIGNED OFF THE BENCHMARK-------THE CORGI

NOT YOU.

Why should he take the risk

As he carries the can as far as manufacturer is concerned.

 

[muckylugs]

so we get ripped of to the tune of £450 to £600 for a procedure that even plumbers on this site say is a waste of money in a lot of cases well not if it goes in there pockets!

 

[kevplumb]

do educate us all where are you getting ripped off

 

[muckylugs]

kev are you trying justifying a £450 to £600 charge for a powerflush
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17554&highlight=powerflush

 

[kevplumb]

i am not trying to justify anything
i dont need to 'i was trying to explain the law

as for powerflushing never been a great advocate of it myself

but bear in mind the cost of the pump 'the chemicals add a day's work if you are going to do the job right

i get the feeling a lot of people seem to think it is a cure for all ills

my combi has been in two houses over 10 yr never missed as the system's where both clean
i know they where as i fitted both of them

 

[muckylugs]

enough said, taking into account the price of a pump and the price of chemicals wont be long before the whole cost of a powerflush turns out to be a nice little earner!

 

[ollski]

kev are you trying justifying a £450 to £600 charge for a powerflush
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17554&highlight=powerflush

Who charges that?...even BG only just touch the top end of that, but they give a lifetime guarantee and as many free subsequent powerflushes as may be required in the future. The only time you will get a quote like that is when powerflushing a low water content boiler due to the cost of replacing the heat exchanger(s)

 

[PEDANTICVINDICTIVEMAN]

Just in case it got missed here it is again, Can I make it clear that I couldn't care less about people doing their own work in their own home, this country has far too many mamby pamby laws allready, I do object to cowboys doing work in other peoples houses and doing it cheap because they are working illegally and dont have the expense us legit guys have to pay, so let me make it clear to all diyers, if you kill or maim you and your family I couldn't give a toss, but if you injure me or mine in the process lets hope you die in the explosion because I will break your friggin neck. THINK I MIGHT KEEP POSTING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS SO AS TO CUT DOWN ON THE TIME WASTED ON THESE TYPE OF POSTINGS.

 

[muckylugs]

You are some sort of pr**k people ask question for infomation and to see if they can save themselves money the vast majority of people who ask if they can fit a boiler are only asking because they feel confident to do so and what is the danger in the water side F-ALL.

Yes untrained people who install gas should be prosecuted could not agree more and thanks to Kev for explaining that it is the gov who says it is the water sidee as well that is also against the law

Get of your bl**dy high horse

 

[JayS]

There's a lot of moaning in this thread... Let me see if I've understood the sensible bits correctly...

So because a boiler is a gas powered device you need a CORGI certificate to install the gas, as well as the water because an incorrect installation on the water side may cause an explosion. Right?

Ok, so if somebody non-CORGI puts up the radiators, and plumbs them to the point of the boiler. But a CORGI person connects the water inlet to the boiler, the radiator circuit, the gas, etc. to the boiler. Is this acceptable? Referring to the 'a-water-leak-can-cause-an-explosion-bit'. I can't see how a leaking radiator would cause an explosion. Yes, a leak close to the boiler maybe, but somewhere else in the house is pretty unlikely...

E.g. Would replacing a leaking radiator require a CORGI certificate? (This seem to be a pretty popular question by DIY'ers on the forum) I don't see how somebody who knows some plumbing would fail changing a radiator...and if they do then it's not likely to cause any other problems then a wet floor...

Based on the same argument, think about the following. There are a lot of boilers in kitchens in this country, and to my knowledge there are very few part P registered CORGI plumbers. I say they should not do the electrics then, should they...

Just spicing up the discussion.

 

[muckylugs]

the water explosion was sacasm!

 

[JayS]

the water explosion was sacasm!

Oh dear...irony?

 

[johnad]

now im getting confused.
what have i started ?
all i am trying to do is to save money i want to do as much of the work myself as i can (i have fitted two complete combi systems before)
i am quite happy to pay a corgi engineer to test it so where do i stand on the legale side,
because it is a gas appliance can i not even hang it on the wall, ?
and how would a water leak cause an explosion, ?