Boiler question

[CBW]

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[Mottie]

Sorry, not what I meant. I meant, is the condensate pipe and copper pipe joined inside before going outside?

I don’t think they should be. The copper pipe is the Pressure discharge pipe which can just be vented to outside and any discharge needs to be seen whereas the condensate pipe can’t be left to just drip, it must be routed into a drain or soakaway as the condensate is slightly acidic.

 

[CBW]

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[Dangee]

Tbh, I don’t think anyone mentioned a copper pipe in the 1st place. I don’t know where Android got that from. I just said white plastic pipe.
But talking about joining is just confusing a simple check.

 

[ianmcd]

just switch the system off with pressure in it and disconnect the condensate pipe under the boiler, and put a bowl or something under it and see if you get drips when the boiler is not on

 

[Android 07]

So, without disconnecting anything ( this would be beyond my capabilities! sorry ) , I see no dips on the plastic pipe under the boiler.

 

[ianmcd]

So, without disconnecting anything ( this would be beyond my capabilities! sorry ) , I see no dips on the plastic pipe under the boiler.

Get a small child to do it if it is indeed beyond your capabilities , it involves pulling a solid plastic pipe out of a flexible connector , if you are not strong enough call on @gasbusters he will dust and polish the boiler at the same time

 

[Android 07]

Get a small child to do it if it is indeed beyond your capabilities , it involves pulling a solid plastic pipe out of a flexible connector , if you are not strong enough call on @gasbusters he will dust and polish the boiler at the same time

I do not have access to a small child. I guess I will now need to arrange the kidnapping of one

 

[ianmcd]

I do not have access to a small child. I guess I will now need to arrange the kidnapping of one

Or try weetabix

 

[Android 07]

I asked for a 2nd opinion and asked a different Gas safe engineer to come and do the servicing. He charged me the call-out fee but was able to point out a number of issues that need to be fixed :
-Boiler was moved by the builders in the bathroom from the centre to a side.
-They did not fit the flue correctly. It was not at an angle and it was also less than 1200mm from the nearest bedroom window.
-The white plastic pipe coming out was very thin and it needed to be a fatter one otherwise it would freeze in winter.
-The copper pipe from the boiler did not need to go all the way down from the 1st floor. It could have been terminated against the wall.

He re-pressurised the boiler and tightened the valves underneath and said there would be hot water but no heating. He said wait 24 hrs and see if the pressure drops. It has not.

 

[sxturbo]

So you have a leak in your pipes

 

[ianmcd]

They did not fit the flue correctly. It was not at an angle and it was also less than 1200mm from the nearest bedroom window.

really ?????

 

[Android 07]

So you have a leak in your pipes

The next question is how do you find the leak.

 

[Android 07]

Guys, sorry to bump this thread.
Winter is coming.

I spoke to a gas engineer at work and he suggested a Track & trace would be required and I take home insurance which includes this. So, I paid a little bit extra and took such home insurance 3 months ago.

Now, I would like to call them. What is the process with Track & Trace ? Do they lift carpets and floorboards all around the house ? How long does it take ?

 

[sxturbo]

I've just re-read the thread and see that the 2nd opinion guy re-pressurised the system and left the heating off.

After leaving it for 24 hours you said the pressure did not drop.

This suggests you don't have a leak in the pipes. The expansion vessel is knackered and needs replacement.

At the moment the boiler is over pressurising when heating is on and opening the pressure relief valve.

This is probably why the old valve that has been replaced was leaking in the first place.