Breaking News (Rwanda policy)

[motorbiking]

In the examples given both simply needed to go to the nearest safe country and from there apply for a visa. Simples. A highly trained doctor would have found an army of sponsor companies willing to manage the whole process

No need to pay traffickers, no need to travel a perilous journey.

Th Rwanda scheme is for those who have no link to the U.K. but links to a 3rd safe country. E.g someone who has been granted refugee status in Greece but left Greece to upgrade.

We are using Rwanda to provide safety for those who come here illegally and to deter people from trying via people trafficking

 

[noseall]

and to deter

FAIL.

 

[motorbiking]

you could argue its tried and tested.

FactCheck: did Australian offshore asylum system reduce boat crossings?

Other policies might have been more effective.

www.channel4.com

 

[IT Minion]

Why do you believe that?

Because that's not the policy. I thought it was that at first, but the government isn't doing that.

It wants to take people it thinks are less worthy of asylum and send them to seek it in Rwanda without seeing if they qualify in the UK first.

 

[noseall]

you could argue its tried and tested.

FactCheck: did Australian offshore asylum system reduce boat crossings?

Other policies might have been more effective.

www.channel4.com

Geographically the UK and Australia are not comparable. Tried and tested? Not really no.

Rwanda policy - FAIL.

 

[ajohn]

Rwanda policy - FAIL.

We will find out eventually even if it gets off the ground.

One fact not mentioned in the fact check. The number of migrants is heavily dependent on the number of trouble spots in the world. Syria for instance caused rather a lot of movement,

 

[Deleted member 18243]

We will find out eventually even if it gets of the ground.

I suspect that the number of immigrants that get sent to Rwanda will be the same as the number that applied for the "Brightest and Best" visa, i.e. zero.

Boost for UK science with unlimited visa offer to world's brightest and best

Top scientists to be given fast-tracked entry into the UK.

www.gov.uk

 

[Deleted member 18243]

UK asylum grant rate nearly 3 times that of France:

UK asylum grant rate is nearly three times that of France

UK's initial asylum grant rate shot up an astonishing 43 percentage points since 2016 while France's fell Government reveals that Albanians apply for asylum in France 'in large numbers' (with over 90% rejected there). Increasing numbers are now coming here in boats. The same applies to...

www.migrationwatchuk.org

Japan, the world's third largest economy, accepts hardly any refugees:

NO ENTRY: How Japan's shockingly low refugee intake is shaped by the paradox of isolation, a demographic time bomb, and the fear of North Korea

Japan accepts few refugees. In 2017, Japan accepted only 20 refugees, but the reasons for this are more complex than they appear.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[IT Minion]

Oddly it doesn't mention that France accepts twice as many refugees as we do.

How many people do we grant asylum or protection to?

www.gov.uk

 

[ajohn]

Oddly it doesn't mention that France accepts twice as many refugees as we do.

How many people do we grant asylum or protection to?

www.gov.uk

I think they also get more to choose from. I assume unlike some they just get on with it,

 

[Vinty]

The good thing about the Rwanda thing is that British officials can go there and sort out the scrotes from the punters in a controlled manner.
I imagine that not all these illegals are Albanian gangsters, religious fundamentalists, or benefit tourists ect.
There could be a number who are of good character and could make a useful contribution to the UK economy.

 

[Notch7]

you could argue its tried and tested.

FactCheck: did Australian offshore asylum system reduce boat crossings?

Other policies might have been more effective.

www.channel4.com

Tried and tested to be both very expensive and very cruel

“Suffering to Save Lives: Torture, Cruelty, and Moral Disengagement in Australia’s Offshore Detention Centres”

Suffering to Save Lives: Torture, Cruelty, and Moral Disengagement in Australia’s Offshore Detention Centres

Abstract. Since Australia re-established offshore processing on Manus Island and Nauru in 2012, there have been ongoing reports that asylum seekers and refugees

academic.oup.com

 

[Notch7]

There could be a number who are of good character and could make a useful contribution to the UK economy

maybe we could swap them for some British grown chavs…or Brexit supporters or Tory MPs

 

[Notch7]

Rwanda:

Tories say it’s a wonderful place
Tories say it would be a deterrent

contradictory

 

[Vinty]

maybe we could swap them for some British grown chavs…or Brexit supporters or Tory MPs

Good idea, seeing as we can't send them to Australia anymore.