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Brexit is not the will of the people, it never has been

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Notch7, 12 Aug 2019.

  1. Bodd

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    I'm sure the French croissant will still want to sell us their
    croissants. If they don't we will bake our own. We will all have to adapt
     
  3. Bodd

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    I think you are. Its getting close now. And it's notable.
     
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    Do you accept the vote was leave or stay with no other terms attached? There was nothing to say we would only leave if we got this deal or wouldn’t leave if we didn’t etc?

    As I don’t see any evidence to say otherwise regarding that.

    If the effort people are putting in trying to get a second referendum was instead put into the deal and what happens afterwards the whole situation would be better.
     
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    Do you accept that nobody voted for "no-deal" and nobody campaigned for it?
     
  6. Notch7

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    I disagree.

    if Brexiteers spent more time having an honest discussion about what they want to achieve with leaving the EU, then we would be a lot further forward.

    The problem is that the Tory MPs have spent the last 3 years lying about the details, so the public are as badly informed as they were 3 years ago.

    The biggest issue is that the claimed benefits of Brexit dont exist.
    And the deal that Brexiteers want, does not exist.

    If Brexiteers were able to accept reality, we wouldnt be stuck in this consitutional crisis.

    What benefits do you want to achieve from Brexit?
     
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    That’s incorrect John because I did so no that is not. Now please answer my question.

    Notch you have failed to answer my question and basically deflected. This is very typical of remoaners.

    If you have something that says when voting it means there is a deal please show me.
     
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    John can I suggest you vote for the Liberals in the next election, or Labour. Then who ever wins wins.

    I'll accept if a remain party win and we stay in the EU
     
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    These tory MP's were remainers in majority and did not represent the 17 million
     
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    Really? All we voted for in 1975 was to join the common market and that grew, sneakily, into the EU where they want to control everything we do.
     
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    I voted to leave 3 years or more ago, absolutely horrified how it has gone up to now, Parliament has not acted democratically and actioned on the result of the vote.

    Hopefully Boris has the spine to get the job done on the 31st.

    Makes me sick to the stomach to see how corrupt our government is.
     
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    When you say we didn't have the full facts when voting, could that not be Said for the first vote? In 1973 4 or 5 we didn't have the full facts then.
    But now we have seen 40 odd year later how it's turned out do you not think we are all more the wiser
     
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    Im not sure how that is a response to the point I made.
     
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    Yes I knew that, but how do you catch them to send them home is the real problem.
     
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    It makes me sick to the stomach how corrupt our government is.

    Tory MPs lie about the Irish border, they lie about trading underWTO terms, they lie about tarriffs, they lie about Gatt 24, they lie about claim of sovereignty, they lie about taking back control.

    Theresa May lied about her deal: she said it would bring back control of fishing, we would have controls of our borders, control of our laws etc etc etc.
    Why is that all untrue: because the WA is not a deal.
     
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