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masona said:
At the moment I hate all the parties, we need a new honest party

you don't really believe there is any such thing as an honest political party do you masona?
 
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Hospital spend through the roof; Have a look at the NHS - where has the money gone apart from on management? Wards closing, remaining wards understaffed. MRSA, GP's earning more for doing less. Can't use the NHS as a good example.

Thousands of additional police and community wardens; PCSO's, enough said (policing on the cheap, what wrong with REAL police) Police spending more time doing paperwork, gun crime and knife crime up. Fear of crime is significantly higher than it was - despite "visible reassurance" of CSO's

We are now paying more than we ever have done in tax, and we're getting less for our money...
NHS is worse, less public toilets, streets are dirtier, roads are full of potholes, parks are run down or closed and sold, you are more likely to be a victim of robbery/violent crime, civil service and local government is overrun with middle management and analysts (who all tell us lies about how well things are running).

I can quite happily rant about the current shower because I DIDN'T PUT THEM IN.
 
I could write a long list of what Labour has done wrong. The worse one is when Labour sacked over 100,000 cleaners at the hospitals and now we have MRSA problem, 5-6000 people are dying from MRSA per year, my next door neighbour is in hospital now with MRSA, he's hasn't got long to live, B lair doesn't care, 48hrs to save the NHS, by 2002 everyone will have a NHS dentist :rolleyes: I could go on but sadly I have given up with this country because of all the muppets including the EU, Blair is selling England down the river because of the EU laws which he has signed.
 
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Top down management by mostly incompetents.
A dose of private sector would sort 'em out, who could afford to employ the majority of them?
For gawds sake GorTone you lot should be navigating by tipping the road to one side or tother just to keep Gross Brittania on overall course, leave the driving to the drivers.. Stop bloody tinkering.
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cuthbert7454 said:
Masona and others think the labour party is bad.
Minimum wage; OPPOSED BY CONSERVATIVES
Education spend up; DITTO
Hospital spend through the roof; OPPOSED BY THE COSERVATIVES
Thousands of additional police and community wardens; OPPOSED
£200:00 winter fuel allowance; OPPOSED BY CONSERVATIVES
CONSERVATIVES; Remember just the three thing below.

POLL TAX; Your wife had to pay poll tax even if she had NO INCOME.
SHUT 55000 MENTAL HEALTH BEDS. Thats 55000
SOLD THE HOSPITALS.
SPOT ON!
 
cuthbert7454 said:
POLL TAX; Your wife had to pay poll tax even if she had NO INCOME.
I don't understand, what's the difference with council tax?
 
masona said:
cuthbert7454 said:
POLL TAX; Your wife had to pay poll tax even if she had NO INCOME.
I don't understand, what's the difference with council tax?
difference is it's based on households not individuals.
 
Okay then, is it right that my 3 member of my family who are earning and they don't pay anything and wasn't that the whole idea of the poll tax, to be honest I can't remember the poll tax set up.

Really should be done on earned income.
 
masona said:
Okay then, is it right that my 3 member of my family who are earning and they don't pay anything and wasn't that the whole idea of the poll tax, to be honest I can't remember the poll tax set up.

Really should be done on earned income.
I don't think many people would be happy with 60%+ Income Tax, any government putting all taxes under one umbrella would soon be voted out.
On the question of your family members contributing that's a personal thing between you and them, as the Head of the family it would be up to you to decide on a fair contribution level that you would then pass on through the council tax.
 
tim west said:
I don't think many people would be happy with 60%+ Income Tax, any government putting all taxes under one umbrella would soon be voted out..

I bet if you took all of your taxes, both direct and indirect you would find that you are probably paying close to 60% of your earnings to the taxman anyway.
 
nstreet said:
I bet if you took all of your taxes, both direct and indirect you would find that you are probably paying close to 60% of your earnings to the taxman anyway.
exactly what i was insinuating, you just don't notice it as much the way it is now
 
It doesn't matter which party is in power. The Chancellor has a figure that he must find to pay for health, education, welfare, military etc. Either that - or close hospitals, scrap trident, cut education etc.

Take your pick - pay the taxes or take the cuts.
 
masona said:
I could write a long list of what Labour has done wrong. The worse one is when Labour sacked over 100,000 cleaners at the hospitals and now we have MRSA problem, 5-6000 people are dying from MRSA per year, my next door neighbour is in hospital now with MRSA, he's hasn't got long to live,

Nothing to do with cleaners but overuse of antibiotics and good old Darwinian law.
 
A young man named Gordon bought a donkey from an old farmer for £100.00.

The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day, but when the farmer
drove up he said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news...

the donkey is on my truck, but unfortunately he's dead."

Gordon replied, "Well then, just give me my money back."

The farmer said, "I can't do that,because I've spent it already."

Gordon said, "OK then, well just unload the donkey anyway."

The farmer asked, "What are you going to do with him?"

Gordon answered, "I'm going to raffle him off."

To which the farmer exclaimed, "Surely you can't raffle off a dead donkey!"

But Gordon, with a wicked smile on his face said, "Of course I can, you
watch me. I just won't bother to tell anybody that he's dead."

A month later the farmer met up with Gordon and asked, "What happened with
that dead donkey?"

Gordon said, "I raffled him off, sold 500 tickets at two pounds a piece, and
made a huge, fat profit!!"

Totally amazed, the farmer asked, "Didn't anyone complain that you had
stolen their money because you lied about the donkey being dead?"

To which Gordon replied, "The only guy who found out about the donkey being
dead was the raffle winner when he came to claim his prize.So I gave him his
£2 raffle ticket money back plus an extra £200,which as you know is double
the going rate for a donkey, so he thought I was a great guy!!"

Gordon grew up and eventually became the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and no
matter how many times he lied, or how much money he stole from the British
voters, as long as he gave them back some of the stolen money, most of them,
unfortunately, still thought he was a great guy.

The moral of this story is that, if you think Gordon is about to play fair
and do something for the people of this country for once in his miserable
life, think again my friend, because you'll be better off flogging a dead
donkey!
 
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