Can a DIYer safely move electric sockets?

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Cables run under suspended floor. I plan to glue insulation to the walls, ready to be plastered over by a pro. If I turn off the sockets at the consumer unit, it is perfectly safe to remove these wall sockets (still keeping them in their cases) and place them in new positions? There's 3 in this pic, one is already on the floor as it was on the side of the chimney breast. I'll be ripping out most of those floorboards so will have good access. If the cables are similar to the room next door, then there is plenty of extra length to allow them to be moved a fair bit.

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the bedrooms (this will become one) have their own sockets, so I can take my time while the kitchen and living rooms are still powered.

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You can move them. Whether you can do it safely is rather up to you!

Two thinngs you should read:
Safe isolation (making sure the circuit actually is OFF) DO NOT rely on what is written on the fuseboard. There are a number of MCBs there that do not have labels, where do they go?
Best Practice Guide 2 Issue 3 (1.00 MB)

Cable routes must be in the recognised zones
https://www.diynot.com/wiki/Electrics:walls

And of course you'll need to test everything after you have messed around with the wiring. Got any (even basic) test kit?
 

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NO, but an electrician will be round to finish off in the other rooms, so I can ask him to take a look for me.
I will only move, as in take out of wall and replace after insulating, not take apart.
What I might do is just remove them, leave them all hanging, then get the electrician to put them in the right places before the plasterer comes. But I need to do the insulating and cleaning up below.
 
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Likely 99 times out of 100 people can with care move sockets without a problem. However if following the rules most DIY people don't have the skill or equipment to do it within what the regulations say you should.

Having an EICR (electrical installation condition report) will highlight 99% of the faults, however he can't find them all. So we assess the risk, and with an owner occupier the risk is quite low, so no real problem, with rented then the risk of some one doing something daft then taking the landlord to court is high, so simply not worth doing DIY with rented, but with owner occupied most will DIY.
 
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I plan to glue insulation to the walls, ready to be plastered over by a pro.
Will the cables end up under the insulation?


the bedrooms (this will become one) have their own sockets, so I can take my time while the kitchen and living rooms are still powered.
But presumably is it not currently a bedroom, so the sockets are not currently on the bedroom socket circuit (not that one of those is marked on the CU), so how do you plan on transferring them to a different circuit?
 

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There's only one circuit on that part of the board for sockets. Any way, decided to carefully remove them I'll get the electrician in to put in new boxes when the walls are ready. Got some old tv and i guess radio sockets hiding behind the chipboard wall.

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And what is this? Old earth wire?

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There's only one circuit on that part of the board for sockets.
And it's turned off, yes?


Any way, decided to carefully remove them I'll get the electrician in to put in new boxes when the walls are ready.
And will remain off until the new sockets are installed and the wiring tested, yes?
 

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Looks like a TV or radio aerial and two loudspeaker sockets.
What are loud speaker sockets? I assume these would connect to somewhere else?
There's lot of antennas in the loft, i think a previous owner was into radio.
 

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Why do you think it might be that?

What would it be earthing? It's not G/Y.

Sure it's not aerial coax?

I don't know what it is. Had something similar in another room and somebody didy maybe earth, but i really don't know.
 

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Will the cables end up under the insulation?

so how do you plan on transferring them to a different circuit?

Will be a bit like this:
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No plans to move them to a different circuit, i meant physically move the socket on the wall.
 
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