Can anyone tell me if this is usual finishing to Fascia/soffit/guttering replacement

[Josephineyy]

I’ve just paid for scaffolding to have all my Fascias, soffits and guttering replaced and caped with new pvc,

I feel like the finish on the soffits are hugely different to my neighbour and that the gutter is wavy and missing end pieces?

Is this reasonable as to how a finish should look?

TIA

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I feel like the finish on the soffits are hugely different to my neighbour and that the gutter is wavy and missing end pieces?

Maybe the photo, or shadow, but it looks as if the soffit lengths have all been cut too short, and they look old?

The gutter looks as if it is not straight, even has a fall to the right, rather than having a slight, but continual fall to the left, to the hopper and drain pipe. Could you climb onto the scaffold, and sight it along, from the stop end on the right?

Gutters should be absolutely straight, but with a slope to the discharge of around 1:350, or 1/2" or so in 8 feet, to best allow debris to wash down. No dips anywhere.

 

[Josephineyy]

Maybe the photo, or shadow, but it looks as if the soffit lengths have all been cut too short, and they look old?

I think they’re too short, and not even all equally short. All the pvc is new.

The gutter looks as if it is not straight, even has a fall to the right, rather than having a slight, but continual fall to the left, to the hopper and drain pipe. Could you climb onto the scaffold, and sight it along, from the stop end on the right?

I’ll try and get up there tomorrow and upload some pictures

 

[catlad]

No excuse for that sort of work.

 

[Josephineyy]

No excuse for that sort of work.

Thanks Catlad.
Can you tell me specifics so that my tradesman can’t counter and say expansion gap etc etc

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I think they’re too short, and not even all equally short. All the pvc is new.

The wall side of the soffit should be slotted into a U shaped plastic channel, fixed the wall. It looks as if they have done that, but it still looks a bit strange at the wall. Then the sections of soffit should be cut to the correct length to snuggly fit between the wall, and the lip of the fascia. The sides of the soffits, should all snap together, via a tongue and groove.

If not properly fitted, the first time the wind blows, they will be blown out. It's also usual to add some soffit vents, to soffits - they make plastic items for the job. A 3" diameter circular plastic item, with a grid to prevent insects/birds getting in.

The only thing which is a problem for expansion and contraction is the gutter itself. You will hear it clicking, as the sun hits it - quite normal.

They will have to completely redo that soffit, with new soffit material, to be able to correct it, there is nothing salvageable there, and that gutter needs to be checked for level.

 

[Josephineyy]

Been up the scaffold today - photos of the guttering level below.
It’s already pooling water.

 

[Josephineyy]

More photos here if anyone can pick up what’s needs correcting

Tradesman is asking to settle the bill and I’m concerned if I do so that there will be no incentive to correct these mistakes during the time frame that my scaffold is paid for.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Been up the scaffold today - photos of the guttering level below.
It’s already pooling water.

Oh dear, that is terrible - the whole job needs to be started again. The sheer weight of water will eventually rip that gutter down.

Tradesman is asking to settle the bill and I’m concerned if I do so that there will be no incentive to correct these mistakes during the time frame that my scaffold is paid for.

Don't settle - he is no tradesman. By the looks of that work, he has never, ever installed gutters, fascias, and soffits in his life before, he is a chancer. That work is shockingly poor work, the guy fitting it hadn't a clue how to lay it out, how to plan it, how to operate a tape measure, or how to install it.
In your photo 2754, the soffit is not fitted with the plastic U channel, along the wall, the soffit is not even pulled down to rest on the lip of the fascia.

The work he has done, suggests he is not even capable of rectifying his work.

For comparison....

I am not a gutter, fascia, soffit installer, never done anything like it before, but I did mine, working from ladders, all done, front and back in a week, on my semi. Tradesmen, had been engaged to do next doors, some time before, and messed up our gutters in the process. What I did, was a much better result than what was done next door.

 

[Josephineyy]

Don't settle - he is no tradesman. By the looks of that work, he has never, ever installed gutters, fascias, and soffits in his life before, he is a chancer. That work is shockingly poor work, the guy fitting it hadn't a clue how to lay it out, how to plan it, how to operate a tape measure, or how to install it.

Oh my gosh, thank you Harry!
Can you help me with the correct language to use with the installer have this rectified and to mitigate my losses?

The tradesman has had a 50% deposit upfront (allegedly for materials), and plans to return tomorrow to clear the rubbish and some left over materials.
There are several brand new lengths of materials here incase that’s noteworthy.

 

[Josephineyy]

Don't settle - he is no tradesman. By the looks of that work, he has never, ever installed gutters, fascias, and soffits in his life before, he is a chancer. That work is shockingly poor work, the guy fitting it hadn't a clue how to lay it out, how to plan it, how to operate a tape measure, or how to install it.

Oh my gosh, thank you Harry!
Can you help me with the correct language to use with the installer have this rectified and to mitigate my losses?

The tradesman has had a 50% deposit upfront (allegedly for materials), and plans to return tomorrow to clear the rubbish and some left over materials.
There are several brand new lengths of materials here incase that’s noteworthy.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Can you help me with the correct language to use with the installer have this rectified and to mitigate my losses?

It is an unmitigated mess, unworthy of anyone, never mind someone professing, and offering a professional service. Most of what has been done on the soffit, appear to not be salvageable, is scrap, and new will need to be bought and fitted. The gutter might be able to be realigned, to allow a proper fall.

A decade ago, I was quoted around £1000, to install soffits, fascias, and soffits, to match what had been done next door. The front fall pipe was new, the rear, was our original round item, not very old, but they had messed up with the connection, and it was spewing water out, every time it rained - hence the need to replace the lot to match. Looking at next doors work, I decided I could make a much better job of it myself. It cost me around £200 for the materials, full wholesale price, a regular would have an account, and a discount. Which suggests the 50% for materials, was very over stated.

What were you quoted, and how did you find these clowns?

Don't pay them any more money, tell them you are seeking a professional report.

 

[catlad]

The work he has done, suggests he is not even capable of rectifying his work.

Exactly

 

[Josephineyy]

What were you quoted, and how did you find these clowns?

Don't pay them any more money, tell them you are seeking a professional report.

Quoted £2880 (excluding scaffolding) found on Mybuilder

Just preparing to shoot over an email and some photos, any advice on specifics which I should be sure to include would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Quoted £2880 (excluding scaffolding) found on Mybuilder

So he charged you claiming £1,400 for materials? Even now, I doubt the materials would come to £400. That is several times what it would cost, just for the materials, the £2880 was double what the job ought to have cost, given that it was laid on a plate, for him, with the scaffolding set up.

Remember, I did front and rear, including a fall pipe, all done properly, struggling off a ladder, never having done it before.

Working easily, off scaffolding, I would have it done properly in two easy days.

Just preparing to shoot over an email and some photos, any advice on specifics which I should be sure to include would be greatly appreciated.

There is so very much wrong with it, it's not a snagging job to fix it. Much of it needs to be ripped out and restarted with new materials.

You can easily price up all of the material costs, at https://www.eurocell.co.uk/ - they stock everything which has been used. Just calculate the lengths and quantities he has used, I think you are in for a surprise, at just how cheap those items are.

You have been scammed. Please don't pay this person any more money. The work I have seen, suggests this person is not even capable of doing the job properly.