can you use 3 phase SWA cable for 230vAC single phase?

[Deleted member 142255]

I wasn't suggesting that it was a good, or even sensible, idea.

What I was saying is that if people in that country really do believe that the prohibition of over-sleeving is a significant 'safety issue' , then they could address it even further by forcing electricians to 'increase the price of every job' in the manner you mention.

Fortunately, neither you nor I live in such a country, so the issue is moot for us.

You did not make any of those distinctions. You stated

As I've said, it is only relevant to safety in the hands of less-than-fully-competent electricians. In fact, the ultimate in 'safety' might be to completely do away with colour-identification of conductors, thereby forcing electricians to find out for themselves which conductor was being used for which purpose!

In any event, as EFLI has observed, no amount of 'rules' about identification of conductors can guarantee that all electricians will always connect things correctly.

Even if you asked every electrician in the (any) country, I think you might struggle to find examples of 'safety issues' that had arisen because of terminal over-sleeving of conductors, and I find it hard to believe that electricians in ROI are any less competent, or any more likely to 'make mistakes' than are their counterparts in other countries - so I have to wonder whether there really is any sensible evidence-base foor this 'rule'?

 

[JohnW2]

You did not make any of those distinctions. You stated

I tend to assume that I don't have to spoon-feed readers with every detail. Anyway, you now know exactly what I meant.

 

[Risteard]

Why don't you just go to a RoI electrical wholesalers, and get the cable RoI like you to use?

They should sell it by the metre.

Indeed. Better yet, he could get his Electrician to source the proper cable.

 

[Risteard]

I like screwfix - had good experiences with using them in the past , good website, good prices , useful click and collect . its astrange one why our screwfix over here though dont do the swa in brown,blue g&y - sent an email to screwfix and just told me to email their suppliers - still waiting for a reply . only thing i could think is that the electricians maybe get this swa they have got and sleeve the insulation .... but now i hear thats not allowed in Ireland

It also can't be PVC insulation, bedding or sheath.

 

[Deleted member 142255]

Indeed. Better yet, he could get his Electrician to source the proper cable.

Or even get a local professional to sort it

 

[pete01]

Or even get a local professional to sort it

To be sure to be sure

 

[andyr123]

judging by how hard it is to get hold of one i constantly read on local facebook pages about how hard it is to get a local plumber or electrician in the area and that people phone them and they say they will be there next week and a month later they still havent turned up - looks like i might have a bit of a wait....

 

[Risteard]

judging by how hard it is to get hold of one i constantly read on local facebook pages about how hard it is to get a local plumber or electrician in the area and that people phone them and they say they will be there next week and a month later they still havent turned up - looks like i might have a bit of a wait....

Better than spending a few years in gaol. (Or even longer in the graveyard.)

 

[Deleted member 142255]

judging by how hard it is to get hold of one i constantly read on local facebook pages about how hard it is to get a local plumber or electrician in the area and that people phone them and they say they will be there next week and a month later they still havent turned up - looks like i might have a bit of a wait....

You are talking to one lol.

Ask Mr Walsh either via here, personal message or his website/telephone I shared with you. He's already on board and responding to you

 

[andyr123]

Better than spending a few years in gaol. (Or even longer in the graveyard.)

blimey that escalated - can i really go to jail for putting up a few sockets in me garage! ? - I know you dont know my levelof electrical competence but if I ended up in the graveyard because the RCCB didnt trip in the consumer unit on a fault i'd be getting my family to file a law suite from my grave!

 

[Deleted member 142255]

blimey that escalated - can i really go to jail for putting up a few sockets in me garage! ? - I know you dont know my levelof electrical competence but if I ended up in the graveyard because the RCCB didnt trip in the consumer unit on a fault i'd be getting my family to file a law suite from my grave!

Assuming it was you that you killed. It could, however, be your wife or one of your children, heaven forbid.

 

[andyr123]

Assuming it was you that you killed. It could, however, be your wife or one of your children, heaven forbid.

ah yes I remember reading about an incident in the UK once years ago , something to do with stainless steel kitchen sink and no earth bonding - his mrs got electrocuted

 

[Risteard]

blimey that escalated - can i really go to jail for putting up a few sockets in me garage! ? - I know you dont know my levelof electrical competence but if I ended up in the graveyard because the RCCB didnt trip in the consumer unit on a fault i'd be getting my family to file a law suite from my grave!

I'm just looking out for you. I like you too much Andy From Sligo to see you doing hard labour.

 

[pete01]

I'm just looking out for you. I like you too much Andy From Sligo to see you doing hard labour.

Go and price him up

 

[Deleted member 142255]

ah yes I remember reading about an incident in the UK once years ago , something to do with stainless steel kitchen sink and no earth bonding - his mrs got electrocuted

Look at it this way, what test equipment do you have? Do you know how to use it? Do you know how to interpret the results? Can you be certain it's safe and compliant?

@Risteard has all the equipment, knows how to use it and will certify the work in accordance with your rules.

Sit back, have a beer and let a pro do it for you knowing that it's done properly and safely. He may even teach you a little while he's there if you give him a cuppa and a biscuit.

Simples!