Ceiling spot lights not all working ?

[333rocky333]

As for the earth, AFaik 2 core wiring is only allowed in certain situations, anything else there must be a connected earth within the cable.

Are you saying there is NO earth core within that grey cable, seems odd.

 

[Cerenko]

Yep no earth core
No earth connectors on lamps
I think when the bulbs go I will just buy some with earth connectors and 3 core cable , simple now I know what I am doing

 

[Cerenko]

This is what it said on the box

Double Insulated Ceiling Lights, No Earth Cable Required Page 2 of 12
Double insulated lighting for ceilings. This entire lighting range is double insulated and does not require earth cable. Also known as Class 11 or class 2 light fittings, these lights can be installed where no earth wire is present.

 

[333rocky333]

Thats all true, the regulations are regarding the wiring you have installed not the light fittings, normally in situations like yours you would run a cable with earth in, to each light then use a 2 core flylead to each fitting,
Something like this at each point maybe.
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Produc...MI_pyw3NPM3QIVg73tCh3PWgLYEAYYBCABEgJFIvD_BwE

The fittings are misleading as they have loop in and out connecters but no earth facility on them

 

[Cerenko]

Cheers , I have found some with earth connectors built into the lamps and I have plenty 3 core cable so think I’ll just change the lamps soon to make the circuit safer

 

[EFLImpudence]

Cheers , I have found some with earth connectors built into the lamps and I have plenty 3 core cable so think I’ll just change the lamps soon to make the circuit safer

Class II is considered 'safer' than earthed fittings.

Earthing is not a good thing in its own right.
It is a necessary evil for Class I fittings and appliances.

 

[Cerenko]

liking that , cheers

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Risteard has got a point that I missed, what did you do with the ground wire?
The ground wire should be sleeved with yellow/green sleeve and joined from the rose and also at each lamp so that their is a continuous Ground line from start to end.
They do not have to be connected to the lamps (in this case), but the cable has to have a working ground connection along its entire length.

https://www.screwfix.com/search?search=ground+sleeve

Please don't use that term.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The fittings are misleading as they have loop in and out connecters but no earth facility on them

They are not "misleading" - they are made without consideration for the regulations in the UK.

 

[securespark]

It's the fitting's fault as much as anything...
The terminal block allows looping of cables in and out.
But there is nowhere to park the earths and no space to fit a connector for them.
If the solution is to have a joint elsewhere and only one cable at each fitting, why do the terminal blocks have two connection ports?

The terminal cover should have some kind of built-in cable clamp, which should be on the sheath, not the conductor insulation.

Oh, secure....READ THE NEW POSTS before posting yourself!!

 

[securespark]

They are not "misleading" - they are made without consideration for the regulations in the UK.

Who doesn't run a cpc in their wiring these days?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Across the entire planet I'd hazard "lots".