Charlie Kirk

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Shot dead

I think this is a terrible day for America, it shows where polarisation leads.
He leaves behind a wife and 3 children.
 
This tragedy underlines the need for these right wingers to dial down the inflammatory rhetoric.

Race baiting can have serious consequences for innocent people.
 
Sitting on the fence here but the rabid left call out pretty much every body to their right as racists.

These days we have a range of political positions - so why do people just want to stir up issues - and that goes to the left and the right
 
At times like this, we need our world leaders to be dialing the rhetoric and other things down.

Alas, it seems to be going the opposite way.

When you see what's going on e.g. in France, Nepal, here etc, it seems as though the masses are revolting against p1ss poor government, leaders, super rich hoarding the wealth etc.
 
Ironic that his stance on gun ownership was that the huge death toll was worth it in exchange for upholding the second amendment...

I wonder if his family will still think that way?
 
Sitting on the fence here but the rabid left call out pretty much every body to their right as racists.

These days we have a range of political positions - so why do people just want to stir up issues - and that goes to the left and the right
Left and right should be careful about what they say.
Nigel Farage went to America and told the world his country was worse than North Korea, language like that encourages his supporters to believe they are being victimised and justified in using violence.
 
Ironic that his stance on gun ownership was that the huge death toll was worth it in exchange for upholding the second amendment...

I wonder if his family will still think that way?
I am sure that they will still think that way. Guns are not half as dangerous as those who own them. It wouldn't matter about gun laws as if they are that crazy to shoot someone, they would simply do it another way. A terrible thing to happen, Charlie was a great guy and hyper clever.
 
Left and right should be careful about what they say.
Nigel Farage went to America and told the world his country was worse than North Korea, language like that encourages his supporters to believe they are being victimised and justified in using violence.
Alas, and it'll never change, politics positively thrives on dialing up the rhetoric and pumping what they say (on either side) full of words and statements that are designed to press peoples buttons.

Heck, even tonight I watched an immigration debate tv prog on Sky. As per usual with these things (especially with a rubbish chair as this one had) within minutes it descended into shouting, talking over each other, pivoting away from answering questions etc.

Jeez, as much as I find politics interesting, there's an increasing part of me that is well and truly jaded with the whole thing. I actually don't blame people who say 'oh, I take nothing to do with the news and what's going on in the world. I'll stick to doing my allotment and walking my dog.'
 
Jeez, as much as I find politics interesting, there's an increasing part of me that is well and truly jaded with the whole thing. I actually don't blame people who say 'oh, I take nothing to do with the news and what's going on in the world. I'll stick to doing my allotment and walking my dog.'
It is. the best way to live your life rather than getting involved and all worked up over politics. I ride my bike, enjoy life to the full and pretty much don't fret over the news.
 
Sitting on the fence here but the rabid left call out pretty much every body to their right as racists.

These days we have a range of political positions - so why do people just want to stir up issues - and that goes to the left and the right
the thing is the ramping up of division and hate is driven by the right not the left.

the rise in polarisation and division has taken place at the same time as right wing populists like Trump, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage.

Please don’t try and put this on the left.

Note: notwithstanding the actual rabid left are extremely toxic, but they largely tend to stick to their echo chambers and vent their hatred towards the soft left.
 
the thing is the ramping up of division and hate is driven by the right not the left.

the rise in polarisation and division has taken place at the same time as right wing populists like Trump, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage.

Please don’t try and put this on the left.

Writes the leftie who spends his time starting threads about the right …… and even does it in this very statement
 
It wouldn't matter about gun laws as if they are that crazy to shoot someone, they would simply do it another way.
Rubbish...

Guns make it too easy...

I guess you are like the nutjob NRA who believe that the way to tackle gun crime is to put more guns out there...

Strange then how shootings in the UK are low due to our laws - one of the good things about the UK...

If you prefer the american way, maybe you could explain how this correlates?
 
Rubbish...

Guns make it too easy...

I guess you are like the nutjob NRA who believe that the way to tackle gun crime is to put more guns on view...

Strange then how shootings in the UK are low due to our laws - one of the good things about the UK...

If you prefer the american way, maybe you could explain how this correlates?
You are such a boring man, full of self importance and heavily opinionated. Nothing I said was rubbish. Guns are not dangerous in the right responsible hands. They are not banned in the UK and a gun licence is easy to get.
 
I guarantee the MAGAs and Reform supporters will be blaming the rise in hatred on the left.

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