Charlie Kirk

[noseall]

Saying that someone who has been murdered 'brought it on themselves' for expressing views that weren't 'nice', and then calling for the US President to also be 'gotten rid of', leaves no room for doubt as to what she meant.

Yes. She is saying you reap what you sow. Karma. Live by the sword - die by the sword. Some republicans are tired of Trump but are too afraid to say. another three years or so and he will be history if he lives that long or is not impeached. Millions of folk wishing him gone - trust me.

I'm hoping that her obviously intense interest in US affairs means she's a frequent visitor, because I can guarantee that next time she tries she'll be in a jail cell before she knows it, quickly followed - if she's lucky - by a plane ride home.

Oh the drama! I bet she's petrified of finding herself on a plane to the USA.

 

[Vinty]

That is just one interpretation

A statement is redundant if the person then goes on to say the opposite. Saying that someone who has been murdered 'brought it on themselves' for expressing views that weren't 'nice', and then calling for the US President to also be 'gotten rid of', leaves no room for doubt as to what she meant.

If someone drinks a bottle of whiskey and then gets into a car , drives at 120 miles an hour and hits a wall and kills himself, you could argue that they brought it on themselves through their own reckless behavior.
I think Trump should be got rid of.
Does that mean I am advocating that he should be killed.
I could be advocating for his removal from office.

 

[Si_]

Yes. She is saying you reap what you sow. Karma. Live by the sword - die by the sword. Some republicans are tired of Trump but are too afraid to say. another three years or so and he will be history if he lives that long or is not impeached. Millions of folk wishing him gone - trust me.

In what way did he reap what he sowed? Be specific. He was not violent, had shot nobody, had no criminal record, never called for violence. His career was based around debate. And I don't care about Trump, but if I did, I wouldn't wish for him to be assassinated. That kind of rhetoric is for the weak-minded, people who can't express themselves through words on account of having low IQs.

Oh the drama! I bet she's petrified of finding herself on a plane to the USA.

I'm not sure how she'd 'find herself' on a plane. The outgoing flight at least would be under her control. But I can say with some certainty that the very best she can hope for if she does fly to the US is immediate deportation. There is zero chance she'd be allowed to set foot outside the airport.

 

[Si_]

That is just one interpretation

If someone drinks a bottle of whiskey and then gets into a car , drives at 120 miles an hour and hits a wall and kills himself, you could argue that they brought it on themselves through their own reckless behavior.
I think Trump should be got rid of.
Does that mean I am advocating that he should be killed.
I could be advocating for his removal from office.

We're not talking about someone 'killing themselves' by driving into a wall, we're talking about someone being murdered - shot through through the neck whilst at a debating event.

And if someone celebrates a person being murdered for their views, then in the next sentence says that someone else should be 'got rid of' at the same time, it's crystal clear what's being said. Let's not pretend we're both stupid. I'm not, and I'm sure you're not either.

 

[Lower]

Charlie Kirk was the right wing version of George Floyd.
Both were not very nice people.
When Floyd was killed, the Left elevated a common criminal to the status of Martyr because he was killed by the Police.
Likewise Kirk made a lucrative career out of demeaning women and ethnic minorities for the entertainment of his supporters.
He dismissed gun deaths in America as a price worth paying for the right to own a gun.
When he gets shot and killed , he then becomes a Martyr for free speech.

How did Charlie Kirk demean women?

 

[pete01]

So they found the scumbag then....such a shame Charlie seemed such a lovely clever bloke

 

[Brigadier]

n what way did he reap what he sowed? Be specific. He was not violent, had shot nobody, had no criminal record, never called for violence. His career was based around debate. And I don't care about Trump, but if I did, I wouldn't wish for him to be assassinated. That kind of rhetoric is for the weak-minded, people who can't express themselves through words on account of having low IQs

"Read the room" springs to mind.

' Murca is full of guns, and people who aren't shy in using them.

Perhaps he got complacent, and thought it was only "his" side though.

 

[noseall]

In what way did he reap what he sowed? Be specific

The bloke even said a few deaths was a price worth paying.

. He was not violent, had shot nobody

Those school shooting victims are not either. What's your point?

, had no criminal record, never called for violence

No. But he encouraged welcomed and glorified the very thing that killed him. Ironic eh.

. His career was based around debate

It was a debate stage where he met his end. The irony continues.

. And I don't care about Trump

Few people do.

, but if I did, I wouldn't wish for him to be assassinated

Me neither. Most people just want to be rid of the orange, hate stirring rapist.

I'm not sure how she'd 'find herself' on a plane. The outgoing flight at least would be under her control. But I can say with some certainty that the very best she can hope for if she does fly to the US is immediate deportation. There is zero chance she'd be allowed to set foot outside the airport.

 

[Lower]

Charlie Kirk was against free speech

Kirks professor watchlist and School board watchlist is falsely claimed to foster transparency but in reality it is designed to remove left wing views in education

What is Charlie Kirk's TPUSA Professor Watchlist and why is it so controversial? - The Times of India

News News: Charlie Kirk's TPUSA launched the Professor Watchlist to highlight academics accused of promoting left-wing ideology or discriminating against conserv

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

How was Charlie Kirk against free speech?

 

[blup]

Those school shooting victims are not either. What's your point?

No. But he encouraged welcomed and glorified the very thing that killed him. Ironic eh.

It was a debate stage where he met his end. The irony continues.

Few people do.

Me neither. Most people just want to be rid of the orange, hate stirring rapist.

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The substance of what he said was hateful and divisive, he completely followed the Trumpf line, the fact he expressed his views in a “reasoned” way was a reflection of his student audience. It’s outrageous that Trumpf has intervened and effectively said the shooter is guilty and should get the death penalty. He sounds more and more like Pootin every day

 

[Si_]

I've just found out Secretary of State Rubio has declared that nobody who celebrated Kirk's death online will be allowed into the US. I didn't know about that when I posted. So if you combine that with a threat to a sitting president, which the ex-councillor posted, US travel is not in her interests.

 

[Brigadier]

I've just found out Secretary of State Rubio has declared that nobody who celebrated Kirk's death online will be allowed into the US. I didn't know about that when I posted. So if you combine that with a threat to a sitting president, which the ex-councillor posted, US travel is not in her interests.

How was Charlie Kirk against free speech?

Orangina and his minions are though

 

[Si_]

Orangina and his minions are though

They might well be, but my quote doesn't provide evidence for that. The right of free speech, generally speaking but especially in the US, relates to suppression of opinion expressed by that country's citizens by government sanction. It does not apply to foreign citizens, so whilst banning entry to people who celebrated Kirk's death could be termed an over-reach, nobody's freedom of speech is being infringed.

 

[Notch7]

Charlie Kirk did not believe in empathy, he though it was a weakness.

Unlike him, I do have empathy and believe it is a strength.

It is terrible that he died at just 31 and his wife and children will never get over it, this will haunt them every day for life. I heard today, not sure if true, that they were in the audience if so that is unimaginable.


I fear the hatred and division in USA will continue to rise and we will see more atrocities, poss a politically motivated mass shooting before long.

 

[Notch7]

How did Charlie Kirk demean women?

I wouldn’t say demean is the correct word, but he was anti equality


His views on abortion which is all about control of women not about pro life.

And then there’s him saying this: “Conservative influencer Charlie Kirk believed that young women, specifically ones who supported Kamala Harris, want careers – not kids”

Charlie Kirk wanted to take women back to the 1950s: no abortion option, no career, just stay at home with kids.