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Citroen dispatch panel van. which front brake pads?

Discussion in 'Car Repairs / Maintenance' started by Lazzy, 17 Jul 2021.

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    Doing a little favour for someone, their front brakes are grinding badly so offered to put new ones on but it's a bit of an headache working out which ones to order on Monday. I have the chassis number know it's an 06 1.9 diesel but little else, think there's a few variants, don't want to order the wrong ones. I have the chassis number also hoping there's some manu markings, numbers on old pads which may help. TIA
     
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    What's the chassis number?

    Is it turbo diesel?
     
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    2006 is a model change year, so I will presume it's the MK1 face lift between 98 and 2006.

    I'll also presume it's the 1.9 non turbo.

    But to be honest pretty certain they all use the same brakes from memory.

    The difference between them is the make of caliper. Unfortunately you will have to jack it up and remove a wheel and find out if it has Lucas/girling front calipers or Bosch ones.

    The discs are either 281mm or 257mm. You will need to measure these also.

    If it's grinding you'll be wanting discs aswell.

    There is no correct guessing on these I'm afraid
     
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    All you need is the registration number and the motor factor will see you right....as sx says, budget for discs too, more than likely especially if you look at the inner face.
    Non turbo has the caliper bracket held by conventional bolts rather than the female torx bolts of the turbo variety.
    John :)
     
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    Yes i think you are mostly right, thanks. Just measured the disc, near abouts 285mm, calipers are Lucas.
    Woah there easy now! That's going to be a whole lot more work and expence, the disc don't look to
    bad to me. I've fitted pads on lightly scored disc in the past and not had a problem with braking, I think
    the pads soon bed in to light grooving, scoring. No offence, appreciate you and others here are far more experienced in these matters than me but ... what's the problem ?
     
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    Don't think it's a td but will double check, thanks.

    The chassis nunber is 38psi no wait that's wrong, here it is VF7BYRHZB86222734
     
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    The discs may be as rusty as hell, especially on the inner face but so long as they stop you well enough then the MOT won’t worry.
    New discs give a much better pedal feel and progressive braking, naturally enough.
    John :)
     
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    Still had to take a pad in to see if local mf had got the right ones, which of course he hadn't.
    Pushing that big ass piston back in was erm... taxing. Fluid with air bubbles in it leaking out.
    rusted and mostly missing rattle shim resulting in a missing pad, oh joy. Bol*ocks
     
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    Quick question(s); How snug should the new pads be in the caliper?
    Is it common practise to have to shave them on a grinder so they slide in the new anti-rattle shims with ease?
     
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    Should just drop in.

    Make sure the carrier is really clean. If still not fitting the. Take a grinder to the pads.

    I had to do this on my nissan Almera recently, for some reason the inner pad on both side just did not fit, no matter how much I cleaned things up, so I took a grinder to the ears just took a very small ammount of and they now fit like a glove, slapped a bit of grease round then and had no issues at all
     
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    I file the caliper bracket - where the pads land - back to bright metal and then wire brush any anti rattle shims clean. I've never had to grind any pad to fit but I coat all sliding surfaces with ceramic grease and that includes under the shims.
    John :)
     
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    I often find that the paint on the pads makes them a bit of a tight fit. A lick with a hand file (no need to use a grinder) is usually all that's needed. Obviously, as others have said, make sure the grooves in the calliper that they slide in, are clear!
     
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    Trust me, they needed a good grinding despite a good scraping out beforehand. Just thought it odd
    as have never had a problem with any other vehicle I've ever worked on before. Easily 1.5 mm
     
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    Surely this has to be the wrong pad?
    I'd compare them with a quality brand such as Blueprint, I think.
    The only problems I've ever had with pads was on a 1996 Fiat Bravo (or Brava, whichever was the 3 door) and they were Champion pads from Halfords. They were 2mm too small and rattled like hell.
    John :)
     
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    Years ago, my mate decided to fit new brake shoes on the rear of his mark 2 Cortina. He fitted them, knew nothing about self adjusting mechanisms and thinking that they were too big, he filed and sanded the linings down so that he could get the brake drums back on!
     
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