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✔ .... Oh dear what a sad lot we are and I'm so in that group too.
True, but as I always say to people who moan about their getting old, and the consequences thereof .... there's only one alternative to 'getting old', and I personally regard the 'getting old' as being easily the more desirable of the two alternative, despite the downsides ;)
 
True, but as I always say to people who moan about their getting old, and the consequences thereof .... there's only one alternative to 'getting old', and I personally regard the 'getting old' as being easily the more desirable of the two alternative, despite the downsides ;)
As one of my customers put it (He was a retired Electrician, I did not know him until he became a customer) I rewired his home. He had some disabilities made worse or caused by his age.

"Ebee, old age can be a terrile thing but it`s a lot better than the alternative!"

PS - He didn`t call me Ebee just by my real name.
 
Dunno what Pfwa is...

But 30 years of climbing up ladders, going into lofts, under floorboards etc... takes its toll.

Especially when in the early days you didn't wear PPE and now your knees are knackered.
 
Dunno what Pfwa is...

But 30 years of climbing up ladders, going into lofts, under floorboards etc... takes its toll.

Especially when in the early days you didn't wear PPE and now your knees are knackered.
Could it be phwor or jeez.
A few years ago a plasterer friend of mine with shoulder problems was told by our GP that all tradesmen should change careers to something less physical or retire at 50 :LOL: :LOL:
 
A few years ago a plasterer friend of mine with shoulder problems was told by our GP that all tradesmen should change careers to something less physical or retire at 50 :LOL: :LOL:
Maybe, but a good few 'desk workers' get told by their doctors that their health, and quite possibly life expectancy, might well improve if they changed their career (or,at least, their 'lifestyle') to something 'more physical' :-)
 
Look at the bright side for tradies... most desk workers (I am one) will mostly be replaced by AI. I don't see any robots being able to climb into lofts and make dodgy wiring safe again. Same for most blue collar jobs... and UK's housing stock will ensure that there will be work for centuries to come... same cannot be said for office/desk jobs... or even some creative jobs... I am genuinely worried about my son's generation and what they will be doing, but going off topic here... I'll shut up.
 
Look at the bright side for tradies... most desk workers (I am one) will mostly be replaced by AI.
Yes, there are such concerns - and for very many years I have also been one of those 'desk workers'.
I don't see any robots being able to climb into lofts and make dodgy wiring safe again. Same for most blue collar jobs... and UK's housing stock will ensure that there will be work for centuries to come...
There presumably will be an ongoing need for some physical work to be done by human beings for at least a very long time to come, but the call for that it presumably going to continue to progressively decline. Even in relation to housing, which you mention, I imagine that there will be gradual moves towards buildings pre-fabricated in factories, probably largely by robots, that would require little (if any, ultimately!!) on-site human time/effort to 'assemble' them.
same cannot be said for office/desk jobs... or even some creative jobs... I am genuinely worried about my son's generation and what they will be doing, but going off topic here... I'll shut up.
As above, there is definite cause for concern, at least in terms of what we have come to expect. Assuming that the trends continue (and I see no reason why they won't), we will presumably eventually reach the point at which there is simply not enough 'human work' left for everyone to be 'employed' - which I suppose means that the day will come in which we will have to have some system which somehow accepts that an increasing proportion of the population will have to receive 'a reasonable income' without having any 'job' in the sense we currently think of that. What people will then 'do' is presumably something that society will have to decide!
 
What a mess that terminal strip is.
too much wire going into them, big gap with bare pins no end plate to insulate the RH terminal and no end stops to keep them together.

To sort that it you can get shorting links that screw in the middle to join 2+ together so you could then out the middle wires into a single terminal each.

It's a bugger when the existing person who knows all about it refuses to let anyone else know, as you then have to figure it all out I would be up for telling him to forget announcing his retirement from it and instead announce his dismissal (yes I know its volunteer) for not passing on the required info.

Good luck figuring it all out.
Make plenty of notes and drawings.
 
What a mess that terminal strip is.
too much wire going into them, big gap with bare pins no end plate to insulate the RH terminal and no end stops to keep them together.
Well for a start it would help if 6mm² terminals had been used for the 6mm² cables.
I don't know how well it shows in the pic - as I know what it looked like - the metal parts of the line terminal has nigh on pulled out of the side, primarily as the aperture in the moulding for the wire is nowhere near big enough for the insulation of a 6mm² let alone an additional 1mm² with it.
To sort that it you can get shorting links that screw in the middle to join 2+ together so you could then out the middle wires into a single terminal each.
Yeah I know all of that having spent the last 15 years of my working life panel building. My preference for this would be brass bars (like earth and neutral bars in CUs) and offered to to our chairman to fit some and even ordered them.
It's a bugger when the existing person who knows all about it refuses to let anyone else know, as you then have to figure it all out I would be up for telling him to forget announcing his retirement from it and instead announce his dismissal (yes I know its volunteer) for not passing on the required info.

Good luck figuring it all out.
Make plenty of notes and drawings.
This is all 'hosted' by the halls admin so effectively nothing to do with me, I would like to know what's where and started chasing the cable runs while looking for the fault but they pass through 3 loft spaces, without assistance it's tricky and as is often the case in theatre the dahlings doesn't do wires and pliers.


The trouble is I know how an installation gets modified over the years and it's not always easy to 'do it nicely' without major alterations, especially when all that's required is to 'add another cable'.
 

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