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Another improvement we made over Treblinka was that we built our gas chambers to accommodate 2,000 people at one time, whereas at Treblinka their 10 gas chambers only accommodated 200 people each. The way we selected our victims was as follows: we had two SS doctors on duty at Auschwitz to examine the incoming transports of prisoners. The prisoners would be marched by one of the doctors who would make spot decisions as they walked by. Those who were fit for work were sent into the Camp. Others were sent immediately to the extermination plants. Children of tender years were invariably exterminated, since by reason of their youth they were unable to work. Still another improvement we made over Treblinka was that at Treblinka the victims almost always knew that they were to be exterminated and at Auschwitz we endeavored to fool the victims into thinking that they were to go through a delousing process. Of course, frequently they realized our true intentions and we sometimes had riots and difficulties due to that fact. Very frequently women would hide their children under the clothes but of course when we found them we would send the children in to be exterminated. We were required to carry out these exterminations in secrecy but of course the foul and nauseating stench from the continuous burning of bodies permeated the entire area and all of the people living in the surrounding communities knew that exterminations were going on at Auschwitz.

— Rudolf Höß, Auschwitz camp commandant, Nuremberg testimony

The infamous torture confession.

Stick to the issues mate, stop grasping at straws.


Deniers dismiss confessions by German perpetrators that a 'Final Solution' to the 'Jewish question' was indeed a part of the Nazi programme - by saying the confessions were produced under torture. They say that those who confessed knew their admissions would result in a death sentence, so would not have confessed except under duress - and that their accounts of their wartime activities should thus be disregarded.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/genocide/deniers_01.shtml


Holocaust denial is a form of anti-Semitism, positing that Jews have concocted a giant myth for their own ends. It persists despite the fact that the Holocaust is one of the best documented genocides in history, with a wide array of evidence documenting virtually every aspect of it.

For example, approximately a million Jews on the Eastern Front were shot during 1941-42, and buried in large pits. This is known partly because the Einsatzgruppen, the mobile killing units that coordinated these massacres, prepared detailed reports on the murders - reports that contained precise death tolls, broken down into men, women and children.

These reports were sent to high ranking officials in Berlin, and to army, police and SS officers, as well as diplomats and even prominent industrialists. This wide distribution suggests that the perpetrators felt no shame at what they did. Had these killings not been part of Berlin's policy, the reports would never have been so widely distributed.

Deniers argue that evidence such as this was forged, after the end of World War Two, by people working for world Jewry.

Deniers argue that evidence such as this was forged, after the end of World War Two, by people working for world Jewry. They claim that forgers created these and other documents - complete with complex internal reference markings, on typewriters that perfectly matched those used by the various German units said to have written the documents - and then planted thousands of these perfect forgeries in numerous different archival collections (in exactly the right file and in precisely the right sequence) all over Europe.

Not only is such a scenario fantastically improbable, it fails to explain why these supposedly incredibly talented forgers did not succeed in producing the one piece of paper that deniers demand as 'proof' that genocide took place under the Third Reich - an order from Hitler authorising the destruction of the Jews.
 
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The American prosecutors at Nuremberg decided the best evidence against Nazi war criminals was the record left by the Nazi German state itself. They wanted to convict Nazi war criminals with their own words. While the Germans destroyed some of the historical record at the end of the war and some German records were destroyed during the Allied bombing of German cities, Allied armies captured millions of documents during the conquest of Germany in 1945. Allied prosecutors submitted some 3,000 tons of records at the Nuremberg trial. More than a decade later, beginning in 1958, the United States National Archives, in collaboration with the American Historical Association, published 62 volumes of finding aids to the records captured by the US military at the end of the war. More than 30 further volumes were published before the end of the 20th century

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007271
 
Excerpts from David Cole's retraction:

I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War II, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B). The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable...

I now understand that I owe it to the people I wronged to make a forceful repudication [sic] of my earlier views. I also owe a very large apology, not only to the many people I enraged, and to the family and friends I hurt, but especially to the survivors of the Holocaust, who deserve only our respect and compassion, not re-victimization.

Therefore, to all of the above people, let me offer my most humble and very, very sincere apology. I am sorry for what (I) did, and I am sorry for the hurt I caused...
 
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Over the years Carlo Mattogno has emerged as the top gun of Holocaust denial. His research is far more sophisticated than Robert Faurisson's and method of argumentation and writing ability far superior to Arthur Butz.

However, look beneath the veneer and one will see the same bag of tricks employed by all deniers going back to Paul Rassinier -- the godfather of modern Holocaust denial -- and his successors: the absurd conspiracy theories of forgery and evidence manipulation when there are no longer any implausible rationalizations, and the stretching of some evidence and ignoring of other evidence. Mattogno assures us that he has more works on the way, so we can look forward to the familiar pattern. However, in the final analysis, he will be no more successful than in the past.
 
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Peaps, i'm totally with you, and everyone else on here who is trying to educate the old fool Joe

But I think you should remove them pics, we all know what happened and its not nice to pics of children going to their deaths.

We all know it happened, just a shame Joe is blind.
 
Peaps, i'm totally with you, and everyone else on here who is trying to educate the old fool Joe

But I think you should remove them pics, we all know what happened and its not nice to pics of children going to their deaths.

We all know it happened, just a shame Joe is blind.


Blind, stupid or a nazi sympathiser.

An appology would go a long way Joe.
 
Peaps, i'm totally with you, and everyone else on here who is trying to educate the old fool Joe

But I think you should remove them pics, we all know what happened and its not nice to pics of children going to their deaths.

We all know it happened, just a shame Joe is blind.

I believe picture should be viewed however upsetting. It must not be forgotten or trivialised.

I need to take a break.
 
Peaps, i'm totally with you, and everyone else on here who is trying to educate the old fool Joe

But I think you should remove them pics, we all know what happened and its not nice to pics of children going to their deaths.

We all know it happened, just a shame Joe is blind.

I believe picture should be viewed however upsetting. It must not be forgotten or trivialised.

I need to take a break.

We know it happened though, and its very upsetting to see....just my opinion anyway.
 
They are official figures. If you don't like it - then that's tough.

And you really should learn the difference between racism and immigration policy.

Do you still adhere to the old 'six million' when the Jewish authorities do not?

Why do you do that? Ask yourself - why do you do that?
You've had enough hints. Research your sources and references a little more thoroughly instead of selecting only those that meet your pov.

You banged on about the Red Cross. There might be a good starting point for you.
 
Look folks - no-one is doubting the shootings and the death squads - these are very well documented. No-one is doubting the hundreds of thousands that died at Auschwitz from disease, starvation and inhuman guards - they are very well documented.

But the truth is bad enough - there is no need to bring pointless exaggerations into it.

Now did you watch the video - yes or no?

And you still haven't explained how the 4 million became 1.1 million.

Now stick to the topic.
 
Holocaust denial is a form of anti-Semitism, positing that Jews have concocted a giant myth for their own ends. It persists despite the fact that the Holocaust is one of the best documented genocides in history, with a wide array of evidence documenting virtually every aspect of it.

For example, approximately a million Jews on the Eastern Front were shot during 1941-42, and buried in large pits. This is known partly because the Einsatzgruppen, the mobile killing units that coordinated these massacres, prepared detailed reports on the murders - reports that contained precise death tolls, broken down into men, women and children.

These reports were sent to high ranking officials in Berlin, and to army, police and SS officers, as well as diplomats and even prominent industrialists.

No-one doubts this. It is very well documented. Now did you watch the video - yes or no?
 
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