contrails (chemtrails)

[aveatry]

So on the one hand Air Traffic regulations say that planes following the same track closely should have 300 feet of vertical separation and planes crossing should have a minimum of 1,000 -2,000 feet of vertical separation.

You keep on not reading - they were not on the exact same track.
And remember that your debunking argument is that its the differences in atmospherics that causes it. So you think that the atmospheric conditions are vastly different at 38,000 feet and only 300 feet apart section of the sky.
So on one hand you are trying to say one plane did this and another one didn’t because the atmospheric conditions were different at only 300feet apart and yet these chemtrails go from horizion to horizion and stay airborne for hours on end and slowly spread out and join others until there is a thin white blanket covering the sky. And they never hit a bit of sky that does not have the conditions needed to create them. I think my horizion to horizion is at least about 32 miles of ground track

 

[aveatry]

So how close were these planes flying to each other so you think? At what altitude? You said the same altitude, I'm curious how exact that 'same' is.

Precisely the same or plus/minus 10ft, 100ft, 1000ft, 10,000ft?

The same 33,000 but can not remember the 100s over that for each one - that is according to the app and a few mins apart but slightly different track so basically almost the same patch of sky a few mins apart. Same aircraft - one was horizon to horizon chemtrail and the other - nothing not even a contrail. So the debunking using atmospherics does not work.

 

[IT Minion]

So you think that the atmospheric conditions are vastly different at 38,000 feet and only 300 feet apart section of the sky

The same 33,000

You keep on not reading

The problem is that I am making the mistake of reading what you type. And it's nonsense.

1) if they're on different tracks they weren't separated by 300 feet vertically, they were probably 1,000 feet or more apart

2) there is no way you can judge the difference between 33,000 feet and 32,000 feet from the ground by eye.

3) 300 feet is enough to be in a different layer of air.

4) there is literally nothing that anyone can say to prove to you that you're wrong. Your mind is closed to that possibility. I could be convinced I am wrong if there was a massive announcement by several hundred directly responsible pilots, ground crew, chemical engineers and forensic investigations of the specially adapted planes. Its a tall ask, but on the other hand there is nothing that could convince you is there?

5) you can't even see the difference between 33,000 and 38,000 when it's written down. Let alone when it's moving over your head at 600mph.

 

[aveatry]

The problem is that I am making the mistake of reading what you type. And it's nonsense.

1) if they're on different tracks they weren't separated by 300 feet vertically, they were probably 1,000 feet or more apart

2) there is no way you can judge the difference between 33,000 feet and 32,000 feet from the ground by eye.

I was using the app -- I keep telling you. I mentioned about eyeballing it because its a skill I have learnt whilst using the app - its not difficult to do once you have looked at loads and then checked the app - you get to know but was using the app today because I wanted to make sure they were using the same patch of sky

3) 300 feet is enough to be in a different layer of air.

show me the stats to back that one up then

4) there is literally nothing that anyone can say to prove to you that you're wrong. Your mind is closed to that possibility. I could be convinced I am wrong if there was a massive announcement by several hundred directly responsible pilots, ground crew, chemical engineers and forensic investigations of the specially adapted planes. Its a tall ask, but on the other hand there is nothing that could convince you is there?

You clearly have not read the thread -its all been talked about in here already. There is no need for a massive conspiracy, no need for pilots, ground crew, specially adapted planes if it is in the fuel.

5) you can't even see the difference between 33,000 and 38,000 when it's written down. Let alone when it's moving over your head at 600mph.

From the IT man who has never heard of a flight tracking app.

 

[King Billy]

First one today - being the first chemtrail at 2.30 when 2 mins before - no con or chem same height same plane type.

Same glasses?

 

[King Billy]

same plane type.

Jet engines? Wings and a tail? No reverse gear?

 

[King Billy]

I never said they were on the exact same route so its you looking dum

No dumbo I use flight radar 24 and ADS-B exchange, they are flight trackers. And Actually with a lot of use of the app you can become good a estimateing heights

How high were you at the time?

 

[King Billy]

You are trying so hard to debunk that you are not thinking are you
If as you say changing conditions in seconds due to speed then the atmospheric debunk falls down because the chemtrail is constant. And the planes are not separated by 25 miles either - same altitude same aircraft type a few mins apart slightly different heading. One cons - one chems, proof its not atmospheric conditions.

Did you get a photo?

 

[King Billy]

its a skill I have learnt

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Who are "you lot" you prove that you live in a white racist area because you can not understand how anyone can tell the difference - well if you live in these areas then you 100% can. Sikh, Hindu Muslim, and add to that Romanian, Polish, and Somalian and gypsy everyone I know can recognise the differences - its not that big a thing.

Is that the same skill that allows you to determine someone's nationality by sight?

 

[IT Minion]

I was using the app -- I keep telling you. I mentioned about eyeballing it because its a skill I have learnt whilst using the app - its not difficult to do once you have looked at loads and then checked the app - you get to know but was using the app today because I wanted to make sure they were using the same patch of sky

show me the stats to back that one up then

You clearly have not read the thread -its all been talked about in here already. There is no need for a massive conspiracy, no need for pilots, ground crew, specially adapted planes if it is in the fuel.

From the IT man who has never heard of a flight tracking app.

I don't believe you used the apps to check. Because what you describe doesn't match air traffic regulations.

There is a need for massive conspiracy if you want to selectively 'seed' with these planes. You just haven't thought the weight through. But fine, interviews with the scientists working on it and the people who tamper with the fuel.

And again there is no way to convince you you're wrong, you're a fanatic.

 

[noseall]

How high were you at the time?

 

[aveatry]

I don't believe you

And there we have the default position when you have lost the argument.

used the apps to check. Because what you describe doesn't match air traffic regulations.

There is a need for massive conspiracy if you want to selectively 'seed' with these planes. You just haven't thought the weight through. But fine, interviews with the scientists working on it and the people who tamper with the fuel.

And again there is no way to convince you you're wrong, you're a fanatic.

But you haven’t disproved anything - all you have done is made yourself look daft as you think of yourself an IT expert and yet did not know about the existence of flight tracking for the public which has been around for 20 years then a website then an app available for the last 16 years.

 

[IT Minion]

And there we have the default position when you have lost the argument.

But you haven’t disproved anything - all you have done is made yourself look daft as you think of yourself an IT expert and yet did not know about the existence of flight tracking for the public which has been around for 20 years then a website then an app available for the last 16 years.

You started off claiming the planes were the same height.

Then you said you can judge by eye.

Then you said you have practiced your unique talent using Flight24 etc.

Then you claimed that you checked the two planes on flight tracker 24 and they were the same altitude, but you don't remember exactly.

Then you decided they were 5,000 feet higher.

If you looked then up you might remember the airlines? Or you can give a location, I think some services let you look back in time so we could verify it. But you won't do that.

But it doesn't matter, because nothing can convince you you're wrong. You're a fanatic, a crusader, a jihadi for the cause of Chemtrails. And you cannot be convinced otherwise.

 

[aveatry]

You started off claiming the planes were the same height.

Then you said you can judge by eye.

You are getting desperate now picking sections of different conversations and splicing them together.

Then you said you have practiced your unique talent using Flight24 etc.

Yes it's not that difficult

Then you claimed that you checked the two planes on flight tracker 24 and they were the same altitude, but you don't remember exactly.

Yes I noticed the thousands of feet on fr24 but not the hundreds for each one.

Then you decided they were 5,000 feet higher.

Different conversations about a scenario

If you looked then up you might remember the airlines? Or you can give a location, I think some services let you look back in time so we could verify it. But you won't do that.

Yes I noted that bit. They were both transatlantic flight. Don't remember the airline or the pilots name.

But it doesn't matter, because nothing can convince you you're wrong. You're a fanatic, a crusader, a jihadi for the cause of Chemtrails. And you cannot be convinced otherwise.

Even more now desperate aren't you.
You are just frustrated because you can not debunk it.

 

[King Billy]

Even more now desperate aren't you.
You are just frustrated because you can not debunk it.

And you can't present a photo of these different types of sky.
Don't you think that would be an easy starting point?