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Day Rate For Painting ?

Discussion in 'Decorating and Painting' started by WetBimbette, 25 Sep 2010.

  1. WetBimbette

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    I have found a painter and at a lot less than your repugnant and obscene rate of £180 per day. I asked the question on the forum as I was concerned that my original quotation of £150 per day seemed high to me. Thanks to feedback from other customers who have hired painters I received confirmation that I should be able to get a lower quote than £150 per day and this has now been achieved.

    So, the operational logistics of this thread are that:

    1. I managed to get a quote lower than my original quote and saved money.
    2. A painter has gained employment at a rate they are happy with.


    This forum is brilliant, it allows customers to exchange information with each other on costings in order that outgoings are kept to a sensible level.


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  2. joe-90

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    But you don't know what speed he paints at do you? You don't know if he will drag the job out do you? You should have got a fixed price then you'd know what you are expected to pay. There are plenty of chancers out there that think they can do the job - but can't. What do you know about the guy? How do you know he's not some out of work office worker? That's what is really obscene. You are employing someone knowing nothing about what you will pay.
     
  3. Growler

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    joe-90 is correct in everything he says here and if you keep looking, you will always get a cheaper quote. Look long enough and someone, somewhere will do it for nothing.

    Getting a day rate or even enquiring what it is, is asking for trouble. I can have half a room done before most so called painters and decorators have got their overalls on :!:

    I always give a FREE estimate and would never work on a day rate as some folk just don't understand what it can involve.


    Off to the dentists now. He's going to look in my mouth and charge me £30 for doing it. Won't even do anything. He doesn't even come to me for free either... like a decorator will do.
     
  4. Nige F

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    I`ve gone back to the NHS :LOL: £16 to look - and £26 to pull yet another one out ;) Good value - and it appeals to my Communist leanings that I can now go to an NHS dentist. I spent a lot of £ privately - and don`t begrudge that dentist at all ;)
     
  5. tfish

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    £60 to £80 in the north east.

    Iv only every paid more than £60 if i am working against the clock.

    £60 will get you a decorator with 10 years plus experiance up here.

    £800 a week? pmsl
     
  6. opps

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    Hi wetBimbette

    I am based in West London and the day rate quoted sounds reasonable for middle to upper end decorators.

    The problem however is that the cost is not a reliable indicator of quality. I have seen too many crud decorators who charge more than me and provide an inferior finish/experience. They are more profitable and can afford more of life's finer trappings than me but I have a clean conscience and can sleep at night knowing that in a (very) minor way I have improved the life of a customer.

    My charges are in part related to my capital outlay for tools; I have, for example, expensive Festool sanders that are all connected to dust extractors whereas another decorator might have premises to cover the costs of etc. Alternatively they might be faster than me and thus more productive. It is the final cost to you that matters rather than the day rate.

    I tend to work on price but there are jobs that have too many variables and need to be done on day rate. In such cases i try to estimate the upper and lower limits. I try not to deviate too much- ultimately I live on recommendations and thus have a vested interest in keeping customers happy.

    Given your concerns about the decorator's costs it sounds as though you have found him in the yellow pages or some such. Ultimately you don't seem to trust him completely, not a good basis for a working relationship, after-all he will be in your home (sorry, not trying to apportion blame etc). Please do not think that I am maligning the fellow in any way but at least try to speak to his previous customers and SEE his work. That might be inconvenient for him but we all have some special/longstanding customers that will be willing to endorse us and allow strangers into their homes to see our work.

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  7. Growler

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    Mornin' all.

    I'm now off to paint, a dining room and kitchen.

    I should get about 3 hours in, before some of these "day raters" start swanning around in paint shops and finally turn up on the job to brew up. :LOL:
     
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    Fair Play to you. I`ve not got dressed yet :eek:
     
  9. WetBimbette

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    My sympathy goes to your customers having to get up at some unearthly hour to satify your egotistical desire to outshine the "day raters" at your repugnant fees.


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  10. joe-90

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    It's the final bill you should be thinking about. It's a well known ploy of day raters to drag the job out to the extent that a fixed price would have been cheaper. Human nature I guess.

    If you are employing people that have no idea how long the job will take then they clearly have little or no experience - or they'd be able to give you a fixed price.

    Do it right and get a price for the job. Do you really care if they are there 3 days or 5?
     
  11. WetBimbette

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    tfish,

    My sentiments entirely, I originally hailed from the North East before relocating to the North West and now Middlesex. I would love to see some of these £180 per day merchants trying it on up there with the locals, it would be hilarious.

    £180 per day, £900 per 5 day week for a painter, FFS who do they think they are kidding, themselves?


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  12. joe-90

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    You just don't get it do you? It's the FINAL bill that matters - not a day rate.
     
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    joe-90,

    This is the bit I understand:

    £180 per day painter comes along to inspect job and thinks to himself:

    "this is 3 days work, lets start at £540 minimum, hang on, I will stick a days rate on to cover unforeseens and a good juice up in the pub on the way home, that gets me to £720. Now, stick a ton on for some paint and a few brushes and I am at £820"

    "Madam, this job will cost you £1000 all in, including labour, paint and materials etc."

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  14. Growler

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    Finished it.

    You are very mistaken wet bimbette . Very mistaken indeed.

    The lovely old lady I've been working for is delighted to have me there as early as poss to get the job done so she can get settled. She doesn't sleep well now after losing her husband recently.

    Furniture moved and replaced ,lights fixed, radiator leak fixed and cleaned in diner as well as painted
    Fridge freezer, cooker and washer, all pulled out, painted behind and I washed the floor for her as well.
    I could have charged her twice as much and got it, after she was ripped off some years ago by someone she'd got out of the local paper but I wouldn't dream of it.

    Sometimes, a decent decorator is more than just that. They're honest, thoughtful, reliable and they actually enjoy helping some people.

    I like nice people and I'm proud to say, they like me.
     
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    Growler,

    In view of your above post I will say that you are a credit to your profession. Your kindness in assisting your elderly customer is very refreshing in todays society.

    For my sins, I have worked many years in the licensed trade and had 1st hand experience of the bragging and pizzing contests held at bars by tradesmen after their days shenanigans. They like nothing better than to come in and discuss amongst each other their jobs and the rates they charge. It seems as though it is a contest as to who can "stiff" the public for the most money.

    I realise that there are a lot of decent tradesmen out there and my comments are not a global generalisation. However, after years of listening to these guffawing pizz pots bragging at bars it leaves me with a cynical view that is perhaps not fully justified.


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