Has anyone come across replacement locks for double glazed doors that work similar to the old Yale type. So that when you close the door it locks without having to use the key. and if you dont want it to lock you can put the snip on. It seems strange to me that in these times of increased crime a backward step takes place with these locks that need the key to lock them. In my opinion the old system was better, when you shut the door it meant that a key was required to gain entry unlike now were you only have to push the handle down.
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you can buy replacement mechanisms for upvc doors that lock when you raise the handle upwards - so you don't need the key. They also do split spindle systems, which render the external handle useless without a key.
UPVC is itself a step backwards in security, not just the locking mechanisms/cylinders!.
UPVC is itself a step backwards in security, not just the locking mechanisms/cylinders!.
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Nice lock, but not BS3621:2004 rated.
I can see the problems with these doors locking systems, what with them being reliant on the handle having to be raised to engage the locking bolts. Im not impressed with the security of these doors either but a hardwood door is not an option at the moment. So tell me more about this you mentioned HandyHands
Do you know anywhere on the net i could find these replacement lock parts.
Do you know anywhere on the net i could find these replacement lock parts.
Try the ranges from Ferco/GU (Fast Locking), Fullex, Yale, Winkhaus - most have locks with these functions. As for ordering, a number of online stores are available - try multipointlocks.co.uk or dgsupplyline.co.uk. Please bear in mind that when replacing your mechanism, the corresponding frame strikes will also need changing/adjusting to fit the new mechanism. When ordering, ensure you get the correct backset and handle centres, otherwise you'll also need new handles and will have to adjust the door cutout. If in doubt, get someone in that knows what they are doing.
I was at a "study camp" in Osmington Bay, near Weymouth a few years ago, and the chalets there had a UPVC locking system as follows:
when the door was closed, the latch engaged. There was no lever handle outside, just a "pull" and keyhole like on the old yale locks.
IIRC, this meant the room could not be properly secured when everyone was out of the room, since no handle meant no locking. Inserting the key and turning would open the door from the outside.
From the inside they worked like normal UPVC door locks.
Strange system but if they can concoct this combination, im sure anything's possible with UPVC locking!!
when the door was closed, the latch engaged. There was no lever handle outside, just a "pull" and keyhole like on the old yale locks.
IIRC, this meant the room could not be properly secured when everyone was out of the room, since no handle meant no locking. Inserting the key and turning would open the door from the outside.
From the inside they worked like normal UPVC door locks.
Strange system but if they can concoct this combination, im sure anything's possible with UPVC locking!!
I'm begining to wonder if the insurance company are accepting these type locks on these latest upvc doors?crafty1289 said:Strange system but if they can concoct this combination, im sure anything's possible with UPVC locking!!
well they aren't very good - the only thing securing the doors on the system i spoke of above was the single door latch. The only way the door can be properly secured (7-point locking etc) is from the insidemasona said:I'm begining to wonder if the insurance company are accepting these type locks on these latest upvc doors?crafty1289 said:Strange system but if they can concoct this combination, im sure anything's possible with UPVC locking!!
which i suppose is all well and good on a constantly guarded chalet site, but on a house i dont think it would be acceptable. As i said, im sure they can concoct something to satisfy insurance companies.masona said:
A solid wooden door with decent BS rated mortice locks - no point in having a wooden door and fitting a crappy yale lock or 3 lever sashlock.
"Rubbishy" - is that an actual word?. I actually wrote cr@ppy, but the filters working overtime.
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