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let me check

are you suggesting that laws which the UK implemented, conforming to the EU standards that UK used to play a major part in forming, should be jettisoned?

And we should do without laws on, say, food safety or car design?
No, I'm suggesting that we should write our own laws, some of which may be similar to the EU's, but we should ensure that our laws benefit us.
 
because your beliefs in Brexit are built on emotions not on evidence.
And your beliefs in the EU are built on emotions not on evidence. Please accept that we voted to leave your EU.
 
I can remember some on here saying we'd be f'cked and there would be no alternatives to:

Loss of the EHIC
Lost in some EU/EEA countries...

I can remember some on here saying we'd be f'cked and there would be no alternatives to:

The need for Green card insurance
Limits on length of cover and exclusions now apply...

I can remember some on here saying we'd be f'cked and there would be no alternatives to:

UK photo driving licence not being valid in the EU
Only for a limited time period...

I can remember some on here saying we'd be f'cked and there would be no alternatives to:

Loss of inclusive mobile roaming for U.K. citizens
Loss of existing contract provision and extra measures/costs needed to get back to the same position...

I can remember some on here saying we'd be f'cked and there would be no alternatives to:

The need for a visa for U.K. citizens to enter the EU.
If you wish to stay for longer than 90 days, then indeed you do need a visa...

Or if you wish to work or study...

And you'll need a visa for each individual EU country...

All turned out to be just a part of project fear.
All turned out to be reality...

Put any spin you like on it, but you still fail to get the restrictions that have been put on UK citizens by stupid brexiteers!
 
NI and GB are in different regulatory jurisdictions -that means a customs border. WTO concur
Absolutely. So place the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. EU law in Ireland; British law in the UK (which includes N.I.).
 
Absolutely. So place the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. EU law in Ireland; British law in the UK (which includes N.I.).
The GFA guarantees no border between NI and the RoI. Haven't you been paying attention?
 
By the way, no one has suggested that the booths were undermanned on Saturday, how well did that go again?
Two separate causes of the delays:
- idiot motorists all setting off at the same time;
- petty Frogs deciding not to man all the booths.
 
The EU are playing hardball at the moment and claiming there are no alternatives, but there are and things will change.
Yes, hopefully, but that relies on our new PM being pro-UK and not pro-EU like Boris.
 
Lost in some EU/EEA countries...
Which ones?
Limits on length of cover and exclusions now apply...
What limits and exclusions?
Only for a limited time period...
What limited time?
Loss of existing contract provision and extra measures/costs needed to get back to the same position...
Loss of nothing. I have it and it’s cheaper than it’s ever been.
If you wish to stay for longer than 90 days, then indeed you do need a visa...

Or if you wish to work or study...

That’s not what I said. If you want to work or study AND THEY WANT YOU TO WORK OR STUDY a visa will be no problem. Same applies over here.

I am more than happy for any UK residents that want to live or work in any of those 27 EU countries to have to apply for a visa to live, work or study there AND FOR THAT COUNTRY TO DECIDE WHETHER TO ACCEPT THEM. Same the other way round for residents of any of the 27 countries in the EU (and every other country in the world) who want to live, work or study in the U.K. That’s what taking control is about.
 
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The GFA guarantees no border between NI and the RoI. Haven't you been paying attention?
Wasn't the GFA agreed before we left the EU?
Then things are different now. Give the decision to the people of Northern Ireland. Do they want to remain in the UK or join the EU. If the former, the border moves to the edge of the Irish state; if the latter, N.I. leaves the UK and joins the republic of Ireland.
We should not allow part of our nation to be under the control of our enemies. Either keep it or hand it over and let the EU sort out any 'troubles'.
 
Wasn't the GFA agreed before we left the EU?
Then things are different now. Give the decision to the people of Northern Ireland. Do they want to remain in the UK or join the EU. If the former, the border moves to the edge of the Irish state; if the latter, N.I. leaves the UK and joins the republic of Ireland.
We should not allow part of our nation to be under the control of our enemies. Either keep it or hand it over and let the EU sort out any 'troubles'.
So you'd solve the border problem by setting fire to the province, any chance of a trade deal with America, ignite a trade war with the EU, and begin a process for a referendum; angering both Unionists and Nationalists in one stroke.
Nice going.:rolleyes:
 
risking a trade war because that would probably be the first step to a possible reunification of Ireland and the resumption of hostilities.
Exactly. N.I. has always been a divided province for ridiculous religious reasons. I'd be happy to see a reunification of Ireland and let Ireland and/or the EU sort out 'the troubles'.
 
So you'd solve the border problem by setting fire to the province, any chance of a trade deal with America, ignite a trade war with the EU, and begin a process for a referendum; angering both Unionists and Nationalists in one stroke.
In a word, yes. We should not continue to be dictated to by the EU. The decision should lie with the people of N.I. and what they prefer, as I explained above.
As for a trade deal with America, fortunately the anti-British, supposedly Irish, Biden is unlikely to be around for much longer, and even then he's probably forgotten what he said last week!
 
Yawn.

I'll just add our trade deficit has increased. I wonder why?

Whoops forgot something. According to pundits NI is doing ok as things are. What's the problem - politics.
 
Exactly. N.I. has always been a divided province for ridiculous religious reasons. I'd be happy to see a reunification of Ireland and let Ireland and/or the EU sort out 'the troubles'.
If you can point out a time when the island of Ireland was an undivided sovereign state, that would help your 'argument'.
 
No, I'm suggesting that we should write our own laws, some of which may be similar to the EU's, but we should ensure that our laws benefit us.

So the idea that we should "jettison" "EU derived laws" now, when we have not invented similar but different, non-EU derived laws, is pretty silly, right?
 
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