Dover...

[JBR]

It's the agreement that both the EU and the UK signed up to, and is being implemented as written...

Just to be precise, May and Boris signed up to BRINO. We, the majority of the public, wanted Brexit.

 

[JBR]

Which is precisely why a lot of people voted to remain. almost the same number that voted to leave

Over a million less, actually. I wouldn't call that 'almost'.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Not really, obviously Brexit brought about the need for customs declarations but that's no big deal. The Le Touquet agreement means that UK customs officers man the barricades at Calais and French customs man the barricades at Dover.

There are no similar problems in Calais therefore the French customs officers must be w*****s. It really is as simple as that.

So you don't understand what has changed?
Umpteen hours of delays just because a few people were late getting to work? Was it really that simple?
Just accept this is the new normal, we voted for it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Just to be precise, May and Boris signed up to BRINO. We, the majority of the public, wanted Brexit.

To be fair I never saw that choice

 

[JBR]

Was the chaos at Dover nothing at all to do with brexit ?

In a way, yes partly.
It was to do with Brexit in that the petty Frogs thought they'd try to make life difficult for us for leaving the EU.
In addition, it was due to so many idiot drivers all deciding to sail to France on the first day of the Summer holidays!

 

[JBR]

Mottie admits Brexit is not working well

BRINO is not working well.

 

[fillyboy]

So you don't understand what has changed?
Umpteen hours of delays just because a few people were late getting to work? Was it really that simple?
Just accept this is the new normal, we voted for it.

Only happened at one end, the end manned by the French. No delays at the end manned by UK customs. Yes, it really is that simple.

 

[JBR]

To be fair I never saw that choice

You mean you didn't read the written referendum promise?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You mean you didn't read the written referendum promise?

I never actually ever saw anything that explained what brexit was. Did you?
Rhetorical question I know.
More to the point we still don't fully know yet.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Only happened at one end, the end manned by the French. No delays at the end manned by UK customs. Yes, it really is that simple.

If you think it is that simple I am pleased for you.
No point going any further.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

In a way, yes partly.
It was to do with Brexit in that the petty Frogs thought they'd try to make life difficult for us for leaving the EU.
In addition, it was due to so many idiot drivers all deciding to sail to France on the first day of the Summer holidays!

We are where we are. There is no going back (yet , certainly).
But lets focus the blame and the problems on the real cause. Us. Nobody else. This is what we voted for.
We just have to get on with it and accept a lot of things will be worse.
Cheer us all up and tell us all of the the tangible things that are much better

 

[JBR]

But lets focus the blame and the problems on the real cause. Us. Nobody else. This is what we voted for.

Incorrect. BRINO is NOT what I voted for. I voted to leave the EU, not remain half in and half out.
We can continue to argue whether or not black is white, but I don't really see much point.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Incorrect. BRINO is NOT what I voted for. I voted to leave the EU, not remain half in and half out.
We can continue to argue whether or not black is white, but I don't really see much point.

You can think you voted for whatever you want. But thats not the reality is it?

And that is the real issue. Not facing up to reality

 

[IT Minion]

Not really, obviously Brexit brought about the need for customs declarations but that's no big deal. The Le Touquet agreement means that UK customs officers man the barricades at Calais and French customs man the barricades at Dover.

There are no similar problems in Calais therefore the French customs officers must be w*****s. It really is as simple as that.

How many people were coming back and how many border posts have the French port authorities built?

Remember, Calais is four times the size of Dover and the Port of Dover wanted to double the number of booths and French border staff two years ago.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Over a million less, actually. I wouldn't call that 'almost'.

In a population of more than 60 million I would. But then, your hero almost got Brexit done, but that's enough, isn't it?

The fact is that it is hardly a resounding majority, is it?