i am replacing my old white halogen downlighters (50watts ea) with some new brushed steel ones and using LED bulbs. Can i wire directly into each unit and on to the next without using junction boxes. the instruction leaflet just says connect mains cable/s into connector block on lamp, and does not mention jb's at all. Thank you.
downlighters and junction boxes
- Thread starter jackovitch
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The driver is in the lamp
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i assume parrallel as they are exactly the same fitting type as my old ones, except they are LED. my old ones had jb's fitted but some are burnt and brittle and a couple of them had connector blocks which seem to have melted. the diagram shows live to live and neutral to neutral between each lamp fitting but does not show jb's of any description.
When would you ever connect mains lighting in series?!
Shortly before Christmas, for one.
In my loft, for two, where I have a couple of projector lamps wired in series to give them a saner intensity and life.
In my loft, for two, where I have a couple of projector lamps wired in series to give them a saner intensity and life.
Christmas lights dont generally require "wiring", they come prewired in whatever configuration the manufacturer has chosen, and you give them a 240v supply.
I'd also suggest your loft lamps probably arent wired as per the manufacturers instructions?
I'd also suggest your loft lamps probably arent wired as per the manufacturers instructions?
Where LED lights are wired to Constant current drivers, the manufacturers instructions will outline this requirement, if there is more than one light on the circuit.
Furthermore, if you are connecting 15 or more on a lighting circuit, then you could be required to change the MCB from a B to C. Haler's MI for example.
Much as i appreciate the banter going on, i would love to get an answer to my question. Many Thanks.
So you wire them as instructed.
So these are mains voltage then? (as you later said the driver is in the lamp).
I think it will just depend on if you can get 2 cables into the terminal block and get the cover back on. And with no cheating such as stripping the insulation back outside the connector block cover.
I thank you for your reply, but why did the installer of the original lights use jb's and strip connectors if they are not required, why waste the time and money? I want to install these lamps safely, if jb's are required then that is what i need to do,regardless of MI's. However if they are not a requirment and do not add to the safety aspect of the installation i will connect the 1mm (or 1.5mm) cables directly into the strip connector situated on the extended arm of each and every lamp fitting and rest in peace knowing i did the right thing. I am not part P or NIEEC registered i am just a person who cannot afford to employ a pro and who thinks that a job should be done right from the start, which is why i am on this site asking this question. Thank you
Thank yo Mikeyd, you must have posted whilst i was busy typing, so that would be the reason, not cutting back the insulation, ie no cable extending beyond the cover of terminal block cover.makes sense as space is a bit tight. So its not no no if i can get them in. Many Thanks.
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