ECHR

[imamartian]

Should the Human Rights act be ditched? or watered down as the PM suggests?

Or replaced by a 'British Bill of Rights'?

Personally i think the human rights act need a couple of changes...

the rights of the single is outweighed by the rights of the many (i.e. democracy)

and, certain things remove you from the right to the human rights law.. e.g. a custodial prison sentence.... for example

 

[cantaloup63]

People should have to sign up for it and accept the consequences of their actions if they break the embedded contract. Those who refuse to sign would have waived those rights by choice.

 

[imamartian]

People should have to sign up for it and accept the consequences of their actions if they break the embedded contract. Those who refuse to sign would have waived those rights by choice.

interesting answer, but it sounds like an 'optional law' !!! would that work?

 

[cantaloup63]

Sadly it wouldn't work due to the somewhat fundamental flaw that you would have the human right to not sign up to your human rights.

Pity really, but there's got to be a way of dealing wiht the tiny, tiny minority of people who claim their human rights whils completely disregarding those of others.

 

[sooey]

People should have to sign up for it and accept the consequences of their actions if they break the embedded contract. Those who refuse to sign would have waived those rights by choice.

Good idea. It should also be written in English only, with various questions incorporated which demand a response.
Then we could lash all those immigrants who don't speak the lingo out.

 

[cantaloup63]

People should have to sign up for it and accept the consequences of their actions if they break the embedded contract. Those who refuse to sign would have waived those rights by choice.

Good idea. It should also be written in English only, with various questions incorporated which demand a response.
Then we could lash all those immigrants who don't speak the lingo out.

Or indeed Yorkshiremen

 

[imamartian]

Sadly it wouldn't work due to the somewhat fundamental flaw that you would have the human right to not sign up to your human rights.

Pity really, but there's got to be a way of dealing wiht the tiny, tiny minority of people who claim their human rights whils completely disregarding those of others.

but i addressed that... the rights of the 'one' < 'the rights of the many'

 

[Gasman28]

Sadly it wouldn't work due to the somewhat fundamental flaw that you would have the human right to not sign up to your human rights.

Pity really, but there's got to be a way of dealing wiht the tiny, tiny minority of people who claim their human rights whils completely disregarding those of others.

These might be the same scumbags that want to live in our country then go to various places with placards stating things like ' Islam will rule the world' or ' death to all non believers' etc. They shouldn't have human rights, they need a lesson in humanity. Get rid of same back to their country of origin and let them complain there. Let's see how far they get in their country.

 

[imamartian]

Sadly it wouldn't work due to the somewhat fundamental flaw that you would have the human right to not sign up to your human rights.

Pity really, but there's got to be a way of dealing wiht the tiny, tiny minority of people who claim their human rights whils completely disregarding those of others.

These might be the same scumbags that want to live in our country then go to various places with placards stating things like ' Islam will rule the world' or ' death to all non believers' etc. They shouldn't have human rights, they need a lesson in humanity. Get rid of same back to their country of origin and let them complain there. Let's see how far they get in their country.

so a British 'bill of rights' including patriotism as a tenet?

 

[cantaloup63]

but i addressed that... the rights of the 'one' < 'the rights of the many'

So you did - my mistake for skim reading.

When found guilty in court, the judge should include the line "by your actions you have therefore agreed to waive your human rights for the duration of your sentence. You have therefore sentenced yourself to......"

Note that "sentence" includes both custodial as well as non-custodial and that high visibility electronic tagging and strict curfews could be applied without fear of cases like that one a few months ago where some girl argued successfully in court that the tag should be removed since it impoged her right to dress herself in her own individual way.

 

[Gasman28]

Sadly it wouldn't work due to the somewhat fundamental flaw that you would have the human right to not sign up to your human rights.

Pity really, but there's got to be a way of dealing wiht the tiny, tiny minority of people who claim their human rights whils completely disregarding those of others.

These might be the same scumbags that want to live in our country then go to various places with placards stating things like ' Islam will rule the world' or ' death to all non believers' etc. They shouldn't have human rights, they need a lesson in humanity. Get rid of same back to their country of origin and let them complain there. Let's see how far they get in their country.

Yes, no problems. Unfortunately, this country is too soft on the Human Rights issues. Even the French have come to the right decision to ban the ' letter box '. The sooner we stand on our own two feet and get rid of this rediculous clause on our society, the better.

so a British 'bill of rights' including patriotism as a tenet?

 

[alumni]

People should have to sign up for it and accept the consequences of their actions if they break the embedded contract. Those who refuse to sign would have waived those rights by choice.

Good idea. It should also be written in English only, with various questions incorporated which demand a response.
Then we could lash all those immigrants who don't speak the lingo out.

Or indeed Yorkshiremen

Steady on old chap. After all, we are from Gods Country.

 

[cantaloup63]

 

[Alarm]

PAH,its flyover country!!

 

[spacecat]

so a British 'bill of rights' including patriotism as a tenet?

you gotta be S***in me on that LOL