yes he was.The old guy wasn't knocked over because he was exercising his right to free speech.
he was talking to the police, they knocked him over.
where was this physical obstruction?He was knocked over because he obstructed a police operation.
yes he was.The old guy wasn't knocked over because he was exercising his right to free speech.
where was this physical obstruction?He was knocked over because he obstructed a police operation.
he was talking to the police, they knocked him over.
Legally the police were within in their rights to arrest him, he was distracting the police by talking to them during an operation.yes he was.
he was talking to the police, they knocked him over.
where was this physical obstruction?
But it's not a war zone, and those aren't 1st Para. Similar mindset perhaps.They were riot police.
Why would you want to talk to them for? They are not there to talk.
Yeah its disgusting what happened, just as in the tomlingson case but riot police are there draw a line and put you back. Almost like front line paratroopers in a war zone.
Best you stay clear of the riot police boyo.
There is a huge difference between arresting someone and just hitting them. If they'd arrested him then they'd have been told off for wasting time by their bosses, rather than being fired and charged with criminal offenses.Legally the police were within in their rights to arrest him, he was distracting the police by talking to them during an operation.
You wouldn't strike up a conversation with fireman if he was trying put out a fire.
If you did, he would probably tell you to F, off.
The same principle applies in the case of the old codger.
But it's not a war zone, and those aren't 1st Para. Similar mindset perhaps.
There is a huge difference between arresting someone and just hitting them. If they'd arrested him then they'd have been told off for wasting time by their bosses, rather than being fired and charged with criminal offenses.

yes he was.
he was talking to the police,
I cannot believe that several here think that it's entirely the fault of the pensioner.
That the behaviour of the cops was perfectly reasonable.
This is not a matter of opinion.
The pensioner had a right to be where he was and to do what he did.
The police were entirely wrong to act the way they did and further, having done what they did, to do absolutely nothing to help.
It's bad enough that there are police who abuse their powers.
That there are members of the public who think the police were perfectly within their rights to do what they did is scary.
If people don't stand up for their rights, they will be eroded and will eventually disappear.
That's not democracy.
Either way, there waas no need to push him like that and then ignore the fact that he was lying motionless on the floor with blood pouring from his head.
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Talking to them?? Lines of advancing riot police in the middle of a disturbance. What was he saying? Maybe asking them the time, or directions to the nearest tea dance?
And the police were wearing helmets with visors - in the middle of a noisy disturbance remember. Was he using sign language? Maybe telepathy?
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exactlyEither way, there waas no need to push him like that and then ignore the fact that he was lying motionless on the floor with blood pouring from his head.
I think he got off quite lightly...Either way, there waas no need to push him like that and then ignore the fact that he was lying motionless on the floor with blood pouring from his head.