External Socket Question

[ScottishGasMan]

Planning layout for multiple appliances/fittings etc for new kitchen, which has wall facing back garden where I'm going to get an external socket fitted.

Is it worthwhile/good practice to have the socket run from a fused spur in the kitchen so that power to it can be cut when not in use? Or is that just a bit of overkill

 

[EFLImpudence]

It is a good idea.

You can use a 20A double pole switch if you want; you don't really need a fuse for one socket.

 

[winston1]

Planning layout for multiple appliances/fittings etc for new kitchen, which has wall facing back garden where I'm going to get an external socket fitted.

Is it worthwhile/good practice to have the socket run from a fused spur in the kitchen so that power to it can be cut when not in use? Or is that just a bit of overkill

Lousy idea. Any plug you put into that socket will have a fuse.

A double pole 20 amp switch is not a bad idea though.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Is it worthwhile/good practice to have the socket run from a fused spur in the kitchen so that power to it can be cut when not in use? Or is that just a bit of overkill

Or on its own circuit.

 

[charliegolf]

Slightly different, but I used a fused spur to power my shed- the ability to remove the fuse ensures my wife can't 'off' me when I'm in the doghouse at the same time as working on the shed's circuit!

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Is it worthwhile/good practice to have the socket run from a fused spur in the kitchen so that power to it can be cut when not in use? Or is that just a bit of overkill

If it is no more than a double socket outlet, then a 20A double pole isolator would be the better way of the two. If it is to be multiple sockets then a 13A FCU would be advised.

It is not overkill, this socket outlet and very likely circuit will require RCD protection. If the outside socket becomes faulty, it will become a trip nuisance for the internal part of the socket circuit. By having a double pole isolator/FCU upstream of this socket outlet, it can then be isolated it if a fault occurs and for maintenance, without having to isolate the rest of the circuit. Also by having an internal isolator/FCU, you can isolate the socket when not in use and prevent mischievous use of it.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If it is no more than a double socket outlet, then a 20A double pole isolator would be the better way of the two. If it is to be multiple sockets then a 13A FCU would be advised.

And the former can easily be changed for the latter when it does become more than one socket.

 

[Aquaheat]

Lousy idea. Any plug you put into that socket will have a fuse.

A double pole 20 amp switch is not a bad idea though.

Isn't that what @EFLImpudence said?

Just in a nice and proper way without being a d1ck about it?

Jon

 

[ScottishGasMan]

Cheers folks, Was more for the sake of stopping nusance tripping if there was an issue with the outside socket so will chase in a space for a switch in the kitchen and just get a 20a double pole isolator fitted (means the locals cant steal my electricity at night as well - it happens more than youd think round here lol)

The CU is fitted out completely with RCBOs so protection that way is not an issue, theres no more room on the CU or I would have got them to get another RCBO and put it on its own circuit, but will only be inches away from the cabling for the kitchen/utility ring

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Locals go into neighbour's gardens at night to steal electricity?

Where do they take it?

 

[winston1]

Isn't that what @EFLImpudence said?

Just in a nice and proper way without being a d1ck about it?

Jon

No, he said having a FCU was a good idea, though he did mention a DP switch. He did not mention that a plug would have a fuse. In what way was I being a d1ck about it?

 

[winston1]

Locals go into neighbour's gardens at night to steal electricity?

Where do they take it?

Exactly. The courts have ruled that electricity cannot be stolen. It can be misused though.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Exactly.

No.

The courts have ruled that electricity cannot be stolen. It can be misused though.

Locals go into neighbour's gardens at night to misuse electricity?

What do they do with it?

 

[JohnD]

Exactly. The courts have ruled that electricity cannot be stolen. It can be misused though.

It can be Abstracted.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Jolly good.

So locals go into neighbour's gardens at night to abstract electricity?

What do they do with it?​

And when will people realise that the term used for the offence committed is utterly irrelevant?