failing to understand the rules... again.

He's making Truss' honeymoon period look like a long and glorious one.
He's got 4¾ years to turn it around, so he's not concerned with popularity.
There's no chance of a No Confidence vote. The only danger will be from within the party.
 
You do love a strawman

Are logical fallacies part of your lawyer training?


It’s not about whether he or she can afford it, it’s about fashion designers and brands looking for opportunities for publicity………very different from the guy who gave Boris £100k for his flat refurb, that’s blatant cash for political influence
I’m not the one arguing that MPs need a clothing allowance when they are among the top 10% earners in the country and ministers, just about scrape in to the top 5%.

It’s a ridiculous argument.
 
I’m not the one arguing that MPs need a clothing allowance when they are among the top 10% earners in the country and ministers, just about scrape in to the top 5%.

It’s a ridiculous argument.
A clothing allowance levels the playing field for all MPs.
 
I’m not the one arguing that MPs need a clothing allowance when they are among the top 10% earners in the country and ministers, just about scrape in to the top 5%.

It’s a ridiculous argument.
Another strawman

You never mentioned a clothing allowance

You said they should be to afford clothes on their salary…..but the free clothes are given because the designers / brands do it for marketing, nothing to do with whether they can afford it or not.
 
Let's face it, power brings temptation to get 'freebies' when offered...

It doesn't matter which colour of party MP's belong to...

And I'm sure that quite a few on here would go along with that due to their attitude of 'playing the system'/fraud...

So where are their role models? Parliament!
 
A clothing allowance levels the playing field for all MPs.
Why do you feel there is a need to level the playing field?
Another strawman

You never mentioned a clothing allowance

You said they should be to afford clothes on their salary…..but the free clothes are given because the designers / brands do it for marketing, nothing to do with whether they can afford it or not.
I assuming you have himmy on ignore. Or did you miss the bit where my reply was to his comment… about clothing allowances?
 
Why do you feel there is a need to level the playing field?
As you are making such a fuss about (only, see below) Labour ministers receiving free clothes, a clothing allowance for all MPs would mean all MPs are entitled to the same allowance. Thus, if it was genuinely about 'affordability' or 'gifts for influence' there would be a level playing field for all MPs. Ergo, no influence could be gained with 'free gifts',
But Conservative MPs have also significantly benefited in gifts from wealthy benefactors – 141 Tory MPs received £359,891 in free gifts, including tickets paid for by the water industry and thousands of pounds of clay-pigeon shoots and helicopter rides from wealthy donors, according to Observer analysis. In the same period, 118 Labour MPs netted £298,151 worth of gifts.

Thus, it's a proven point that you are only using the free gifts to Labour ministers as a convenient football.
An alternative, to prevent your political football, in the future, is to have a clothing allowance for all MPs.


I assuming you have himmy on ignore. Or did you miss the bit where my reply was to his comment… about clothing allowances?
We all have our own opinions, ideas and political views. We don't need to concur or agree. :rolleyes:
 
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