Farage, the PM we need?

'Nearly' isn't enough. (y)

However, it is enough to make projections too close to call.

I remember some plumber saying that everyone he met was a leaver so he thought it would be a landslide.
 
The center in politics is not a fixed point, not like a geolocation. As one party moves, left or right the centre shifts subtly to allow for that right or left movement.
For example, when Reform was created , the Tories had to shift to the right slightly to accommodate the broad church of their party and prevent defections to Reform.
In that process, they vacated a little of the center ground, which allowed the Liberals to occupy a little of that center ground.
Although personally, I think the Labour party are to the right of the Liberals currently.
So your subsequent comment is incorrect:

Looking at, and in reference to other parties, does undoubtedly locate your own political position.
Going by your rule of thumb that would make Andrew Gold and Brendan O'Neill supporters of the far right. You know, Andrew Gold the Jewish podcaster and Brendan O'Neill formally of the Revolutionist Communism Party and Living Marxism. It was a good stab at a theory but it doesn't work. Political positions are not diseases, you can't catch them just by looking at or talking about them. Guilt by association is not a real thing.
 
Blup

You're beginning to resemble the Witchfinder General.

Do you have anything to add to the original question of the thread or are you going to continue to make it your sole purpose to troll everything I write?
 
I think Reform will follow what Elon and Vivek are doing in the USA with regards to bringing down the overbloated size of the federal government and it's spending. This will free up citizens to build and manufacture again without being hamstrung with bureacratic rules and regulations plus free up much needed capital.

In the UK we have the same problem; the state has got too big and the people now serve the state rather than the state serving the people. We have an unelected civil service running the country rather than the politicians who the people elect. We have so many quangos and commissions who none of us voted for but all of us pay for. I suspect Reform will look at axing those unelected quangos and commissions in the same way DOGE is embarking on.
Left leaning, my arse.
 
Why does Richard Tice spend his time pushing climate change myths and misinformation……the answer as always is vested interest.


Nigel Farage’s Reform Party Has Accepted £2.3 Million from Fossil Fuel Interests, Climate Deniers, and Polluters Since 2019 Election​

The anti-net zero party has been bankrolled by oil and gas investors, aviation entrepreneurs, and those who reject climate science.

Reform has received £200,000 from First Corporate Consultants. The firm is owned by Terence Mordaunt, a director and former chair of the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), the UK’s leading climate science denial group.



Since last election, 92 percent of Reform UK’s donations have come from oil and gas investors, high polluters, and climate science deniers​

 
The Reform Party are another wing of the establishment


Like most far-right parties, Reform claims to be anti-establishment, but it's led by a millionaire ex-banker, bankrolled by aristocrats, and pushes the agenda of landlords and fossil fuel giants. They’re merely another elite faction vying for control


People believe Reform are acting on the side of the people against the establishment…..but Reform is acting in the interests of the wealthy and would make the lives of ordinary working people worse off.


People like . are easily taken in the “bloated bureaucrats wasting our tax dollars” but the actual reality is people like Reform, right wing of Tory party and Trump…..all want to cut the size of govt so they can weaken regulations and controls in favour of wealthy business owners.


If you want to see what happens when private businesses act on behalf of shareholders and are not properly regulated look at the UKs water industry.

I feel sorry for . and those like him…..the uninformed are easy prey.
 
Blup

You're beginning to resemble the Witchfinder General.

Do you have anything to add to the original question of the thread or are you going to continue to make it your sole purpose to troll everything I write?
It is a technique of the hard/far right to call everyone to the left of them, left wing. It just doesn't work. Make your argument, don't hide behind fake ID.
 
:ROFLMAO:

Oh it will be tanking allright - just a little more time. :eek:
Holed below the waterline long ago. Give Starmy a chance. If he can increase house building, get a proper single market deal with the EU, that will be a great result. The NHS might take several terms.
 
I don't know if Farage and Reform are 'exactly' what the UK needs. I don't see a better party though. In some ways I think they could be highly beneficial in other ways I am concerned. If they axe the unelected quangos and commissions I spoke about earlier upstream, this is a plus. Nobody should be telling the people what they can and can't do without being voted in. It's just another layer of bureaucracy and another way to enlarge the state unofficially.

What I am worried about is they may want to privatise the NHS. I just cannot get on board with that. I believe the NHS has got top heavy and needs a good prune and reform but I vehemently disagree with it going private.

I think Reform will be great at returning free speech to the country and I am hopeful they'll kickstart growth in the economy by reducing the size of the state, thus tax and encouraging entrepreneurs back to the UK and encouraging the ones still here.

I do believe Reform will likely be in power in 2029, either fully or as a coalition.
This falls into the 'be careful what you wish for' category in my opinion when it comes to Reform. I can imagine an increasing amount of people being attracted to them and Farage over the coming years because of immigration, however not necessarily giving much thought to Reform's strategy around things like the NHS.

Conversely, I also think 'the NHS' thing would be interesting to watch should Reform get into power. I suspect it would be one of those things they'd have to rein back on quite significantly once in power. Can't imagine many getting behind the idea of an ever more privatised NHS, no matter how the idea is spun.
 
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The Reform Party are another wing of the establishment

Like most far-right parties, Reform claims to be anti-establishment, but it's led by a millionaire ex-banker, bankrolled by aristocrats, and pushes the agenda of landlords and fossil fuel giants. They’re merely another elite faction vying for control

People believe Reform are acting on the side of the people against the establishment…..but Reform is acting in the interests of the wealthy and would make the lives of ordinary working people worse off.

People like . are easily taken in the “bloated bureaucrats wasting our tax dollars” but the actual reality is people like Reform, right wing of Tory party and Trump…..all want to cut the size of govt so they can weaken regulations and controls in favour of wealthy business owners.

If you want to see what happens when private businesses act on behalf of shareholders and are not properly regulated look at the UKs water industry.

I feel sorry for . and those like him…..the uninformed are easy prey.
If anyone believes any major political party is on the side of the people (in the true sense) they are deluded.

I keep on thinking about Trump's use of the phrase 'draining the swamp' and I love the analogy when thinking of politics and politicians. They are ALL in the swamp to varying degrees. No point draining it, exercise in futility.
 
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