Fitting mains powered smoke alarms.

[Taylortwocities]

In England it common to have a large tank of water in the loft with no problems.

When are you going to retract your incorrect advice? Shouldn’t you be concentrating on setting the record straight?

 

[JohnW2]

.... in Wales there were moves to have sprinklers fitted in new builds, but for a sprinkler to work it needs water, so the roof has to be much stronger to take the weight, and the builders pointed out what it would mean in cost ...

Unless things are very different in Wales, that sounds very odd.

I have (fortunately!) yet to come across any roofspace in which a single ceiling joist is not able to happily bear my weight, so a water storage tank with its weight spread across a number of joists should be fine - and that's precisely what millions of houses (including mine) already do have. Anyway, would sprinkler systems powered by mains water (rather than stored water) not be allowed (I would have thought that standard water storage tanks might be too small) ?

Kind Regards, John

 

[winston1]

I don't think this is incorrect.

"In England it common to have a large tank of water in the loft with no problems."

 

[JohnW2]

I don't think this is incorrect. ... "In England it common to have a large tank of water in the loft with no problems."

Since I've just written essentially the same, I don't think it is incorrect, either

 

[Taylortwocities]

What IS incorrect is this….

You don’t need to do anything as the new law won’t be retrospective.

Yet again it’s you assuming something and misleading the unwary reader.
would you like me to draft a retraction for you to post?

 

[JohnW2]

What IS incorrect is this…. Yet again it’s you assuming something and misleading the unwary reader.

Maybe he'll argue that he is taking the word "retrospective". It is correct that legislation of this type can never be truly retrospective - one cannot be prosecuted for doing something that was legal when one did it, but subsequently became illegal because of the introduction of new legislation.

However, the important point, which you are making, and about which readers may be mislead by winston's comment, is that is most definitely IS the case that new legislation can make things illegal from the day of their introduction, even though if they relate to ongoing situations which would have been legal the day before - and that appears to be the case with the Scottish legislation we are discussing.

There was a day on which it became illegal to grow cannabis - and the fact that someone had, prior to that date, 'been growing it for years' would not make it legal to carry on growing it into the future - even though the legislation was "not retrospective" (i..e. could not have been used for prosecuting someone for growing cannabis prior to the introduction of the legislation which outlawed it)

Kind Regards, John .

 

[denso13]

Anyway, would sprinkler systems powered by mains water (rather than stored water) not be allowed

Getting further from the topic but they should be at mains pressure, not fed by storage cisterns.

 

[JohnW2]

Getting further from the topic but they should be at mains pressure, not fed by storage cisterns.

That's more what I would have expected.

Kind Regards, John