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Nordio
No one taught me that! Manufacturers recomend fluxing both tube and fitting.
But its common sense. If you push an end feed fitting unto a fluxed tube and remove it you might be lucky to have 50% flux coverage on the fitting. Solder it and you have an unsound joint!
It's a poor tradesman who thinks fluxing the fitting as per MI's will result in an increased flux residue entering the inside of the tube in comparison to tube only fluxing.
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its not a poor tradesman,its a time served pipe fitter/plumber rather than a mechanic.
the capillary action will help pull the flux in,the heat is what makes the flus active regarless of how you apply it.flux residue from over application(fluxing the fiiting and pushing it into the fitting once you push the pipe in) causes problems.
if you were to braze you would apply no flux what so ever,use rods with flux in and let the capillary action do it all once the pipes are cherry red.The same can be done with copper and soft solder.
If your going to apply flux with a brush,the end of your finger or little nordio then it goes on the tube only.
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Nordio
Only if you over apply the flux and many do.
Not according to the manufacturers.
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Just like your other post on t and p valves,it's pointless arguing.those of us who were trained and work as plumbers will continue to flux the pipe only with no issues.a competent diyer will never change us,but good luck.
Ah ok there is nothing more to say,how can one argue the fine art of plumbing,work done by Artisans from the time of the Romans with a GREASE MONKEY!!!!
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Nordio
You mean like the fine plumbing artisan who did this soldering in my home? This is one of the better ones.
And surprisingly didn't leak!It hardly gives one confidence to employ one of these so called " artisans" supposedly competent in the "fine art" of plumbing.
Nordio, put your "books" down and listen to the experienced plumbers/gas fitters that in some cases have up to 40 years experience soldering pipes. Just to clarify :- APPLY FLUX TO THE TUBE ONLY. Any excess flux inside the pipe will eventually corrode it. Especially important on gas pipes where it'll never be flushed through.
If this is wrong, how do you explain the many years of leak free joints i've made so far? Not to mention all the other guys in here?
In your photo, it looks like your plumber just hasn't cleaned up after himself propperly
If this is wrong, how do you explain the many years of leak free joints i've made so far? Not to mention all the other guys in here?
In your photo, it looks like your plumber just hasn't cleaned up after himself propperly
Yes lets employ lorry stroke car mechanic,someone who hasn't got a clue what he wants to be come weekend plumber
What you want to do is actually try and be good at what you do at the moment it seems you are just a chancer trying your luck at being mechanic cant even decide wether its lorries or cars
My van goes to vauxhall and the guys that work there specialise in vauxhall and have all the specialist kit ,i think you maybe one of those people who have a garage in some back yard
As for the plumbing there is absolutely nothing wrong with it apart from the fact it hasn't been cleaned down properly,does it leak ,has it caused you any problems?
No it hasn't ,moaners like you who hve no basis for an arguement are usaully bodgers and feel inadequate because you were neevr good at anything,so crack on with your weekend plumbing come lorry come car mechanic .
What you want to do is actually try and be good at what you do at the moment it seems you are just a chancer trying your luck at being mechanic cant even decide wether its lorries or cars
My van goes to vauxhall and the guys that work there specialise in vauxhall and have all the specialist kit ,i think you maybe one of those people who have a garage in some back yard
As for the plumbing there is absolutely nothing wrong with it apart from the fact it hasn't been cleaned down properly,does it leak ,has it caused you any problems?
No it hasn't ,moaners like you who hve no basis for an arguement are usaully bodgers and feel inadequate because you were neevr good at anything,so crack on with your weekend plumbing come lorry come car mechanic .
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Nordio
His finest "artisan" work is under the floor boards and leaked like a sieve. I think he was trying to install a sprinkler system.LOL
(That was quite a rant btw)
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DeltaT
Gentlemen? It states on the flux tub how it is to be applied, some manufacturers say tube & fittings, some state pipe only!!
Applied it in the wrong way & it will cause 'lockup'.
Should of gone to Specsavers!!!
Applied it in the wrong way & it will cause 'lockup'.
Should of gone to Specsavers!!!
Just to lighten the atmosphere a little, watch his short film on pipe bending. Real quality!!!!!
http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Bend-Copper-Pipes-109322389
http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Bend-Copper-Pipes-109322389
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The guy has clearly only read some DIY books or gone on one of these mickey mouse course cowboy courses.
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