whats happened to german reliability in the motior industry once reputed to be the most reliable now at the bottom
GERMAN EFFICIENCY& RELIABILITY
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Michael, try and use some punctuation marks, commas and such like and the odd paragraph and folks may take you seriously.
Some of your posts are painful to read.
Any chance of a link to back-up your story...?
Some of your posts are painful to read.
Any chance of a link to back-up your story...?
50 years ago a VW was much more reliable than an Austin.
I think the point is more that reliability of the big Japanese companies is so far ahead that the others are having trouble keeping up.
My old Toyota had done 188K when I sold it and the new owner is cheerfully driving around locally. No rust and nothing worn out except a ball joint. Maintenence costs were very low. It's now 16 years old.
I think the point is more that reliability of the big Japanese companies is so far ahead that the others are having trouble keeping up.
My old Toyota had done 188K when I sold it and the new owner is cheerfully driving around locally. No rust and nothing worn out except a ball joint. Maintenence costs were very low. It's now 16 years old.
Audi, BMW and VW ranked in the bottom 10 of a study into engine reliability
German-made cars are not as reliable as many believe, according to new research. Warranty Direct has studied its claims data to compile a list of the manufacturers with the most reliable engines - and Audi, BMW and Volkswagen all finished in the bottom 10 out of a total 36 makers.
In fact, the only firm whose cars had a worse engine failure rate than Audi was MG Rover. MINI wasn’t much better, finishing third from bottom, while its parent company BMW came seventh from bottom. And, despite its reputation for rock-solid reliability, Volkswagen came ninth from bottom.
Honda scooped the gold medal – the study found that just one in every 344 Honda engines failed, compared to one in every 27 Audi engines. Despite its recent recall woes, Toyota came second and Mercedes managed to outperform its fellow German brands with a respectable third-place finish.
Duncan McClure, Warranty Direct Managing Director, said that engine failures are the worst for motorists as they’re the repairs that can lead to the highest costs because of the parts and hours of labour required to fix them: “The nuber of failures may be low compared to areas such as axle and suspension damage but engine repairs almost always result in costs reaching the thousands for motorists who aren’t covered by a warranty.”
An engine failure on a Range Rover Vogue recently led to Warranty Direct’s highest ever claim of £13,000.
Top 10 manufacturers
Manufacturer Failure rate (%) Failure rate (1 in x)
1 Honda 0.29% 1 in 344
2 Toyota 0.58% 1 in 171
3 Mercedes 0.84% 1 in 119
4 Volvo 0.90% 1 in 111
5 Jaguar 0.98% 1 in 103
Bottom 10 manufacturers
Manufacturer Failure rate (%) Failure rate (1 in x)
1 MG Rover 7.88% 1 in 13
2 Audi 3.71% 1 in 27
3 MINI 2.51% 1 in 40
4 Saab 2.49% 1 in 40
5 Vauxhall 2.46% 1 in 41
What’s your view? Do you think German manufacturers still deserve their reputation for building the most reliable cars?
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-ne...ars-among-worst-engine-failures#ixzz2eIv0ukQ6
German-made cars are not as reliable as many believe, according to new research. Warranty Direct has studied its claims data to compile a list of the manufacturers with the most reliable engines - and Audi, BMW and Volkswagen all finished in the bottom 10 out of a total 36 makers.
In fact, the only firm whose cars had a worse engine failure rate than Audi was MG Rover. MINI wasn’t much better, finishing third from bottom, while its parent company BMW came seventh from bottom. And, despite its reputation for rock-solid reliability, Volkswagen came ninth from bottom.
Honda scooped the gold medal – the study found that just one in every 344 Honda engines failed, compared to one in every 27 Audi engines. Despite its recent recall woes, Toyota came second and Mercedes managed to outperform its fellow German brands with a respectable third-place finish.
Duncan McClure, Warranty Direct Managing Director, said that engine failures are the worst for motorists as they’re the repairs that can lead to the highest costs because of the parts and hours of labour required to fix them: “The nuber of failures may be low compared to areas such as axle and suspension damage but engine repairs almost always result in costs reaching the thousands for motorists who aren’t covered by a warranty.”
An engine failure on a Range Rover Vogue recently led to Warranty Direct’s highest ever claim of £13,000.
Top 10 manufacturers
Manufacturer Failure rate (%) Failure rate (1 in x)
1 Honda 0.29% 1 in 344
2 Toyota 0.58% 1 in 171
3 Mercedes 0.84% 1 in 119
4 Volvo 0.90% 1 in 111
5 Jaguar 0.98% 1 in 103
Bottom 10 manufacturers
Manufacturer Failure rate (%) Failure rate (1 in x)
1 MG Rover 7.88% 1 in 13
2 Audi 3.71% 1 in 27
3 MINI 2.51% 1 in 40
4 Saab 2.49% 1 in 40
5 Vauxhall 2.46% 1 in 41
What’s your view? Do you think German manufacturers still deserve their reputation for building the most reliable cars?
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-ne...ars-among-worst-engine-failures#ixzz2eIv0ukQ6
The Japanese have and always will be well ahead of us and other motor companies as they spend a lot more on research and development and put quality at the top of the list.... our motor industry is purely profit/shareholder driven and that is top of their lists
3. Mercedes.
These are German as far as i know.
These are German as far as i know.
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No surprise BMW is in there. The N46/47 is a terrible engine partly robbed from some French gash. The diesels are even worse I believe although I would never have one.
I just changed the sump gasket on an N46 yesterday and it was a real ballache and when the sump finally came out there was most of the top chain guide lying in the bottom.
Their reliability will only get worse as they get forced into low CC turbo engine by EU ecomentalists.
I just changed the sump gasket on an N46 yesterday and it was a real ballache and when the sump finally came out there was most of the top chain guide lying in the bottom.
Their reliability will only get worse as they get forced into low CC turbo engine by EU ecomentalists.
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Sunbeds on wheels obviously 
having posted this it reminde d me of a programme i saw recently. heres a link i found
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-blueprints-bomb-hit-German-factory-1945.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-blueprints-bomb-hit-German-factory-1945.html
Back in the 60's Honda raced a motorbike in the I.O.M. and Triumph, Norton and BSA laughed, they then went away and spent millions on research & development, unheard of by our companies, in the 70's we were still knocking out motorbike engines with the main bearing clearance of 25thou + or - 5thou, meanwhile Honda were measuring the tolerances in MICRONS! The rest as they say is history!!
Not sure which Beemers the engines that you refer to are fitted. The landlady of my local bought a new 1 series BMW. In the first year, it had to have a new engine, as the cam chain tensioner went out to lunch. It's a common fault with these cars apparently. That's bad, when you think you're paying lots of money for quality.
