Ginger men who now identifies as a woman.

[King Billy]

I am a man, an adult human male. As a male I have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, and it is biologically impossible to change this. If I wanted I could identify as a women, but I'd still have the same chromosomes.

That's fine, you were born like that. Most men were born like that, most men developed in the womb like that.
But not all. some are born differently. You can't simply deny them out of existence, based on your situation.
Otherwise we could all claim that homelessness doesn't exit, if we live in home. But it does, we know it does. It's only because society recognises it that it is allowed to exist, and be discussed.
If society did not recognise homelessness as a problem, we'd either have to claim that 'homeless' people are simply people who choose not to live in a home, or we'd just deny the existence of homeless people, and find some other weird excuse for those people sleeping on the streets.

 

[King Billy]

It's just biological sex and gender.
A man choosing to become a woman is absolutely no different from a Arsenal supporter choosing to become a West Ham supporter.

It's quite a lot more complex than that.

 

[JohnD]

Can we have a recap? ..

He made a false assertion with no evidence to support it.

He seems to be complaining that I did not provide evidence to disprove his.

There was none.

 

[King Billy]

That's because gender is a made up social construct. The man can identify as a women if he wants,

Unless he/she is intersex. Or they were assigned the wrong sex at birth.

Sex is also a social construct, because society only recognises the opposite ends of a continuum. According to society there are no possible positions anywhere along that continuum except at the extreme ends.Medical Science knows that's not true nor accurate.
But society and the 1837 law overrides science.

but he'll still be a male human.

Unless they go through the complicated process of changing their assigned sex on their birth certificate.

But it's interesting that you have limited your 'scientific' argument, for what it is, solely to male humans, amd changing to female gender.
The opposite occurs also.

 

[King Billy]

Gender is (almost always) either male or female, and is (or was) a synonym for sex, i.e. male or female, i.e. what chromosomes you have.

The word has been hijacked by a campaigners, who have attempted to redefine it as being a social construct that may differ from sex.

This isn't language evolution, it's misuse of language for political reasons.

Your argument is destroyed in the first 4 words of your post (almost always).
There's still several hundred thousand in the UK.
But even then you show that you cannot differentiate between sex and gender.

 

[King Billy]

Obviously you could find some really strong women and some weak men.

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Your argument refutes what you were hoping to say. !0% of women is many women, which is what I said.
I also said many men, not all men.
I did not say most women.
And I did not say most men.

If you're going to try refuting an argument at least read the hypothesis, and then read your own comments to ensure your copied and pasted nonsense does what you hope it does.

 

[King Billy]

Not to a bee, no.

Don't assume the rest of the world looks at things the same way as you.

Horses and lots of other animals see colours differently to humans.

 

[King Billy]

The sentence that I quoted, dummy.

More vagueness.
If you can't be specific about what you claim to have disproved, it illustrates that you haven't and are incapable of disproving it.

And nice try with the abuse, you might get away with it, but I'm sure I couldn't, and it would be a perfect opportunity to exclude me from the thread.

 

[pete01]

Your argument refutes what you were hoping to say. !0% of women is many women, which is what I said.
I also said many men, not all men.
I did not say most women.
And I did not say most men.

If you're going to try refuting an argument at least read the hypothesis, and then read your own comments to ensure your copied and pasted nonsense does what you hope it does.

Triggered(Notch7)

 

[King Billy]

You have provided no evidence to support your false assertion.

I don't need to, it's in the Supreme Court judgement, which I suspect you have scrutinised to be able to assert that you can disprove my assertion. But alas you can't, and you haven't tried because you know you can't..

Based on a April 2025 UK Supreme Court ruling, legal sex in the Equality Act 2010 is interpreted as biological sex recorded at birth, overriding changes made by a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) for purposes like single-sex spaces. This landmark judgment, For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers, established that "woman" and "sex" refer to sex assigned at birth.

Trans men should use the Female spaces, not the male spaces, as according to their assigned sex at birth. And trans women should use the male spaces, not the female spaces, according to their assigned sex at birth.

 

[King Billy]

He made a false assertion with no evidence to support it.

He seems to be complaining that I did not provide evidence to disprove his.

There was none.

I made an assertion. For you to claim it was false, you need to disprove it. It's good that you now admit you have not tried to disprove my assertion.
Unlike before when you claimed you had disproved my assertion.
Until you do prove my assertion is false, it stands as true Only when you have proved it's false will it become false.

THIS IS STILL NOT TRUE
I have disproved every scrap of evidence that you produced to support your false assertion
Which is, er.....
Nothing.

So stop playing games, and try an intelligent reasoned discussion.

 

[JohnD]

I made an assertion.

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

[JohnD]

Until you do prove my assertion is false, it stands as true Only when you have proved it's false will it become false.

Utter nonsense.

Russell's teapot - Wikipedia

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[JohnD]

try an intelligent reasoned discussion.

You first.

 

[JohnD]

The law doesn't only bar "bilogical" men/transwomen from using women only spaces, it also demands that "biological" women/trans men use those same women only spaces.

That assertion is false.

Don't try the trick of posting something else in the hope of diverting attention from your false claim.