Government vote to dump sewage in our waters

[transam]

Just been at a trout stream fishing club there is no sewage in that stream or they would all be dead

we also work for land and water company

just left em

best advised that people don’t use there flushing toilets

get one of them eco friendly earth
Toilets

and stop lobbing chemicals and other harmful substances down the drain

sort yer selves out some people in here have to deal with your ***t

think you just flush yer toilet and that’s now some one else’s problem

you caused it take responsibility for ounce in yer lives

 

[wobs]

Just been at a trout stream fishing club there is no sewage in that stream or they would all be dead

Or bigger.

 

[jeds]

Particularly high levels of BS overflowing into this thread. Water quality around the UK has improved over the last 10 years - just look up the JNCC figures - and ongoing major infrastructure projects will improve that further. But it's not just a case of digging a hole, in most cases these projects are 5 to 6 years to complete - the Thames Tideway project is 12 years - and that's after years of planning and preparation.

 

[JohnD]

Particularly high levels of BS overflowing into this thread. Water quality around the UK has improved over the last 10 years - just look up the JNCC figures - and ongoing major infrastructure projects will improve that further. But it's not just a case of digging a hole, in most cases these projects are 5 to 6 years to complete - the Thames Tideway project is 12 years - and that's after years of planning and preparation.

And does this excuse the Conservative Government ordering its sheep to vote against Lord Wellington's amendment?

 

[jeds]

John, you know this isn't a simple problem that can be solved just like that, it's a massively complex issue that has been brewing for hundreds of years and will take many years yet to get fully under control - if ever, frankly? The bill is actually brilliant for lots of environmental issues and we haven't had anything like it for a long time. But all that is lost for a media promoted outrage over one item.

 

[JohnD]

John, you know this isn't a simple problem that can be solved just like that

Show me someone who told you otherwise.

 

[jeds]

Show me someone who told you otherwise.

Do you take everything literally John, or only when it suits you?

 

[wobs]

Particularly high levels of BS overflowing into this thread. Water quality around the UK has improved over the last 10 years - just look up the JNCC figures - and ongoing major infrastructure projects will improve that further. But it's not just a case of digging a hole, in most cases these projects are 5 to 6 years to complete - the Thames Tideway project is 12 years - and that's after years of planning and preparation.

Largely true, but the way it is graded has changed, meaning that an excellent river some years ago may now be be designated as medium quality.

Part of this is that its not just water quality that is measured, but also ecological value, so as river with a natural river banks for wildlife to use would be graded better than a river passing through a city with piles for flood defences and wharfs.

There are also drives to improve industrial discharges, although this won't have that much effect, as discharges are generally treated anyway, just like sewer discharges. This comes from the EU, but the EA is continuing to push this still.

The reason for much of the poor quality in river discharges are:
- CSO - in times of high rainfall (or other issues), results in untreated sewage being discharged. This means that water companies often discharge in single events, and is hard for the EA to monitor.
- Agricultural runoff. This is a big factor these, as they don't tend to have water treatment plants to treat this water, after spreading on land.

 

[wobs]

The Marine Conservation Society warned earlier this year that without the European Bathing Water Directive, which was introduced in 1976, British beachgoers would still be swimming in sewage.

To be fair, when people go to swim in the sea, they just go through the motions.

 

[Notch7]

To be fair, when people go to swim in the sea, they just go through the motions.

 

[wobs]

Interactive map showing where the CSO are, and how many times they have dsicharged and for how long:
https://www.theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers

 

[jeds]

You're not wrong wobs. One of the positive parts of the overall bill was a much stricter regime of monitoring and reporting. There seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors at the moment and it will help hugely to have hard facts in a few years time.