H&S gone mad !

[imamartian]

I used to be a fire warden at work. We were trained to use fire extinguishers etc.

I'm now told i'm no longer a fire warden, i am now an evacuation warden. And i've been told i'm 'not allowed' to use a fire extinguisher in the event of a fire !

The extinguishers are there, so i'm told, 'for the professionals'..... but don't they bring a huge red and yellow van with blue flashing lights, that got shed loads of water in it?

 

[Steve]

Thats crazy. So if theres a smal fire that could be put out with an extinguisher, you just leave it burning and call the fire dept, leaving the fire to do 20 times more damage??

 

[conny]

Two months ago we were trained in the use of different extinguishers for different types of fire. We only carry the powder version.
At the end of the training conducted by the local fire brigade we were also told,
Quote, "If you see a fire, no matter how small, trigger the nearest alarm and get EVERONE out as quickly but safely as possible. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PUT OUT THE FIRE YOURSELF. Thats why we are there, to do it for you."



Then why spend money on a training course for us all?

 

[imamartian]

Thats crazy. So if theres a smal fire that could be put out with an extinguisher, you just leave it burning and call the fire dept, leaving the fire to do 20 times more damage??

Yep!

 

[Steve]

We get the spiel about getting everyone out etc, but are told if the fire is small enough and hasn't started to spread and the escape routes are clear, that we can try to tackle the fire.

 

[imamartian]

The daftest thing is that the extinguishers are now only used to prop open the fire doors when it's hot !

 

[Johnmelad502]

The extinguishers are there, so i'm told, 'for the professionals'..... but don't they bring a huge red and yellow van with blue flashing lights, that got shed loads of water in it?

But by the time they have done a risk assessment, and decided that as ladders will be needed and that climbing ladders is toooooo dangerous, they will probably just turn up and watch.

 

[tim west]

Oh come on lads, just think how the firemen are going to get their overtime otherwise.

 

[Nige F]

Two months ago we were trained in the use of different extinguishers for different types of fire. We only carry the powder version.
At the end of the training conducted by the local fire brigade we were also told,
Quote, "If you see a fire, no matter how small, trigger the nearest alarm and get EVERONE out as quickly but safely as possible. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PUT OUT THE FIRE YOURSELF. Thats why we are there, to do it for you."



Then why spend money on a training course for us all?

You know, I`d loved to have been on that course ...I`d have asked . What if I`m not sure if all the people are out ?...Then you go in Gung-Ho with BA on and die WHO is responsible

 

[^woody^]

Is this exactly the same as the numerous things a fist aider is not allowed to do .... clean out eyes, give a headache tablet, apply a plaster

 

[Johnmelad502]

Is this exactly the same as the numerous things a fist aider is not allowed to do .... clean out eyes, give a headache tablet, apply a plaster

Absolutely not true.

 

[securespark]

a fist aider

Joking aside, I have often been refused a headache pill from trained first aiders. I can take one, but they are not allowed to dispense or administer it.

And all the teachers at school (and the scout leaders) are not allowed to put sun cream on our kids. They have to do it.

 

[Johnmelad502]

a fist aider

Joking aside, I have often been refused a headache pill from trained first aiders. I can take one, but they are not allowed to dispense or administer it.

And all the teachers at school (and the scout leaders) are not allowed to put sun cream on our kids. They have to do it.

As far as the HSE are concerned, these are myths. The HSE allow responsible adults to put plasters on minor cuts and grazes. If the child has a known allergy to latex then none latex plasters should be used.

Headache Tablets must not be kept in first aid kits, but first aiders are allowed to keep and administer them responsibly.

Where the above have been banned, this is silly local decision making by silly individuals.

 

[Nige F]

a fist aider

Joking aside,
If the child has a known allergy to latex then none latex plasters should be used.

decision making by silly individuals.

My dad had an allergy to latex

 

[Steve]

And all the teachers at school (and the scout leaders) are not allowed to put sun cream on our kids. They have to do it.

Playing devils advocate, would YOU feel comfortable with some other fully grown man rubbing suncream into your son's legs and arms? Or if you had one, a daughter? Do you also think said fully grown man would also feel comfortable doing it?