Hob isolator switch

[Jurassicspark]

So, I warranted the reasoning for isolators.

I also warranted the reason why there are no regulations concerning isolators.

And that, I think, was a perfectly valid reason to warrant.

Then Taylortwocities comes along and asks if it’s acceptable to earth things that don’t normally get earthed, asks if I’m not doing it anymore, and claims it was supposedly a regulation before, when it actually never was. Even if it had been, what justification would there have been for it?

And what justification is actually more justifiable?

Earlier editions of the regs required any metal item (eg metal window frames, bannister rails, etc) to be earthed.
I guess you aren’t doing that any more?

Earthing unnecessary stuff, window sills, whatever…

Or having an isolator protecting an oven, hob, cooker, or even a fridge, washing machine, microwave, whatever may be.

I’m pretty sure most people would go for the latter. But why was it omitted, and why does Taylortwocities compare a reasonable, justifiable solution like having an isolator to a “regulation” that never even existed, of earthing window sills and random metal bits?

Does this mean Taylortwocities thinks both are equally justifiable to leave out of the regs? Both equally dangerous? Both equally acceptable? And yet, not having them in the regulations is supposedly fine? Or does he think they’re the same in nature?

 

[EFLImpudence]

But no one mentioned connecting an earth wire to somewhere that doesn't require earthing.

Earlier editions of the regs required any metal item (eg metal window frames, bannister rails, etc) to be earthed.
I guess you aren’t doing that any more?

I was curious about what you would have said about this.

I have answered:

There are no regulations that require an earth conductor is run to whatever thing it is that does not require earthing.

So :

But, the one’s which are guided by the regulations ensuring an earth conductor is run to whatever thing it is, are they really earthed unnecessarily?

So the one's are not guided by the regulations because there are no such regulations guiding them in that direction therefore the earthing is unnecessary.


You are asking silly questions like "what if the opposite were the case?". It isn't.

 

[Jurassicspark]

So the one's are not guided by the regulations because there are no such regulations guiding them in that direction therefore the earthing is unnecessary.


You are asking silly questions like "what if the opposite were the case?". It isn't.

I'm not.

These are supplementary questions and answers, not linked to the original topic of this thread though.

But, the one’s which are guided by the regulations ensuring an earth conductor is run to whatever thing it is, are they really earthed unnecessarily?

I was asking the ones that were guided and explicitly stated in the regulations.

I wanted to know your opinion on that, but again these are questions not linked to the original topic of this thread.

 

[Jurassicspark]

But no one mentioned connecting an earth wire to somewhere that doesn't require earthing.

Well, I did not in regards to the above post earlier on.

Earlier editions of the regs required any metal item (eg metal window frames, bannister rails, etc) to be earthed.
I guess you aren’t doing that any more?

 

[EFLImpudence]

I'm not.

These are supplementary questions and answers, not linked to the original topic of this thread though.

Ok.

I was asking the ones that were guided and explicitly stated in the regulations.

I wanted to know your opinion on that, but again these are questions not linked to the original topic of this thread.

No one was guided by such regulations. There was no such regulation.

It was all down to misreading the regulations and you know what happens when one building inspector starts a myth.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Earlier editions of the regs required any metal item (eg metal window frames, bannister rails, etc) to be earthed.

Actually they did not but people thought they did.

 

[ebee]

Not sure I agree with you. It’s an extremely common position for such a switch these days

But if it is in a bad place it is in a bad place.
I have refused to put them in bad places and usually win anyway.
Only once did I fail, I will not accept customers to do a job other than what I feel is right.
It is their own prerogative to do otherwise but I will not become complicit with daftness