Hospa screw Vs ???

[aveatry]

I read that hospa are the go to for kitchen units/ chipboard but i am finding it tricky to find them so what alternatives can i consider I am looking for 30x4.5

 

[foxhole]

Not found Google yet then?

Hospa Screw, Chipboard, Countersunk Head with PZ Cross Slot, Fully Threaded, Stainless Steel - Häfele U.K. Shop

Screws Hospa Screw, Chipboard, Countersunk Head with PZ Cross Slot, Fully Threaded, Stainless Steel - order in the Häfele U.K. Shop.

www.hafele.co.uk

 

[aveatry]

Not found Google yet then?

Hospa Screw, Chipboard, Countersunk Head with PZ Cross Slot, Fully Threaded, Stainless Steel - Häfele U.K. Shop

Screws Hospa Screw, Chipboard, Countersunk Head with PZ Cross Slot, Fully Threaded, Stainless Steel - order in the Häfele U.K. Shop.

www.hafele.co.uk

Perhaps I should of been clearer. I should of said local.
By that I mean screwfix toolstation b&Q ect. Looking on ebay and amazon strugling there too for the size I need 4 or 4.5 x30. And on either there are hardly anyone selling.
Even the link you gave to the hafele site do not have the size - so I looked in normal steel as your link was stainless steel and yes I can buy them but min 1,000 screws I don,t mind 200 but 1,000 and I have to sign up to get prices. -- Struggling you see.
My local supa dupa fixings supply do not stock. I can find from various UK wide kitchen fitters ect but with £8 post on a £4 box.
Think I will go for spax chipboard screws or timco.

 

[foxhole]

Any broad thread with hold well in chipboard.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Any broad thread with hold well in chipboard.

I'll disagree with you on that point - Hospas are the go to in the kitchen trade simply because they can be driven straight into MFC withgout pre-piloting but with minimal damage, unlike cheap screws. They also come in BZP finish as standard. So no, any old screw isn't as good and many screws burr up or burst the melamine coating on carcasses.

The best alternative in terms of performance is probably the Reisser cutter (although they aren't quite as good IMHO), but with the caveat that getting those in BZP finish often isn't that easy, either. You can generally pick-up smaller quantities of Hospa screws from sellers on eBay, but as they are normally a kitchen trade supply, unless you have a kitchen component supplier locally who is willing to supply to non-trade, you will most likely be out of luck. In my experience Hospas aren't something a builders merchants or ironmongers stock, although I do have one trade ironmonger in Manchester who can get them to order next day (however, in trade box sizes)

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Hospa Screw Countersunk Head Fully Threaded Galvanized Steel

Hospa Screw, Chipboard, Countersunk Head, with PZ Cross Slot, Fully Threaded, Steel

www.solmer.co.uk

Solmer have an ebay account too but they don't sell the full range on ebay.

 

[aveatry]

I'll disagree with you on that point - Hospas are the go to in the kitchen trade simply because they can be driven straight into MFC withgout pre-piloting but with minimal damage, unlike cheap screws. They also come in BZP finish as standard. So no, any old screw isn't as good and many screws burr up or burst the melamine coating on carcasses.

The best alternative in terms of performance is probably the Reisser cutter (although they aren't quite as good IMHO), but with the caveat that getting those in BZP finish often isn't that easy, either. You can generally pick-up smaller quantities of Hospa screws from sellers on eBay, but as they are normally a kitchen trade supply, unless you have a kitchen component supplier locally who is willing to supply to non-trade, you will most likely be out of luck. In my experience Hospas aren't something a builders merchants or ironmongers stock, although I do have one trade ironmonger in Manchester who can get them to order next day (however, in trade box sizes)

So I am just about to fit 14 new cabinet doors and will be using the screwfix Hafele hinges they come with the fat screw attached for the carcus plate and normal screws for the door cup, do you think I should not use the supplied screws but instead invest in the hospa ones.

I looked at the rizer cutter ones but as the cabinet frame is 18mm i just thought that a lot of useful thread is wasted/ cut away to make the cutting angle leaving not much actual thread in the frame.

 

[aveatry]

Hospa Screw Countersunk Head Fully Threaded Galvanized Steel

Hospa Screw, Chipboard, Countersunk Head, with PZ Cross Slot, Fully Threaded, Steel

www.solmer.co.uk

Solmer have an ebay account too but they don't sell the full range on ebay.

Great I will have a look

 

[aveatry]

So do I need the 15mm x3.5 for the door cups Solmer ebay

 

[Deleted member 174758]

So I am just about to fit 14 new cabinet doors and will be using the screwfix Hafele hinges they come with the fat screw attached for the carcus plate and normal screws for the door cup, do you think I should not use the supplied screws but instead invest in the hospa ones.

I'd just use the ones supplied unless they are Chinese...

I looked at the rizer cutter ones but as the cabinet frame is 18mm i just thought that a lot of useful thread is wasted/ cut away to make the cutting angle leaving not much actual thread in the frame.

Which is partly why kitchen fitters tend to use Hospas...

 

[aveatry]

I'd just use the ones supplied unless they are Chinese...

I don't know but they are Hafele so hopefully good.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Should be OK, then.

 

[opps]

I'll disagree with you on that point - Hospas are the go to in the kitchen trade simply because they can be driven straight into MFC withgout pre-piloting but with minimal damage, unlike cheap screws. They also come in BZP finish as standard. So no, any old screw isn't as good and many screws burr up or burst the melamine coating on carcasses.

The best alternative in terms of performance is probably the Reisser cutter (although they aren't quite as good IMHO), but with the caveat that getting those in BZP finish often isn't that easy, either. You can generally pick-up smaller quantities of Hospa screws from sellers on eBay, but as they are normally a kitchen trade supply, unless you have a kitchen component supplier locally who is willing to supply to non-trade, you will most likely be out of luck. In my experience Hospas aren't something a builders merchants or ironmongers stock, although I do have one trade ironmonger in Manchester who can get them to order next day (however, in trade box sizes)

What is your opinion of Confromat screws?

One-Piece Connector, with Ø 8 mm Head, for Ø 4 mm Drill Hole, Confirmat - Häfele U.K. Shop

Connectors Steel, with cross slot - order in the Häfele U.K. Shop.

www.hafele.co.uk

Over the years I have known guys that use them with the drill bit that does the clearance hole, counter sink and pilot hole at the same time.

Oh, and good to see you back. Respect.

 

[aveatry]

What is your opinion of Confromat screws?

One-Piece Connector, with Ø 8 mm Head, for Ø 4 mm Drill Hole, Confirmat - Häfele U.K. Shop

Connectors Steel, with cross slot - order in the Häfele U.K. Shop.

www.hafele.co.uk

Over the years I have known guys that use them with the drill bit that does the clearance hole, counter sink and pilot hole at the same time.

Oh, and good to see you back. Respect.

You saved me an extra post.When I was breaking down the very old kitchen cabinest I came across thoses - never seen them before and thought they looked really good and strong so i salvaged them for future use.

 

[aveatry]

I have ordered the Hospa 15mm x3.5 screws and will do away with the unknown supplied ones.