How to fix leaking back to wall toilet?

[terryplumb]

And it was not stained at all before tenant left ?
If no one has been using the toilet that points toward an issue with the supply pipework .
Or maybe it just wasn't noticed ,a supply pipe leak would be constantly leaking.

 

[Gary111]

Tbh there's another tenant who had still been using the toilet, he doesn't seem to notice much as he's really busy.

 

[terryplumb]

Ah ,ok back to square one !!

 

[DiyNutJob]

Stick your phone down there and take pictures. That's the modern inspection mirror.

 

[Gary111]

Ah ,ok back to square one !!

Thanks Terry, I'll maybe leave it a week and see if dropping the water level helped at all, if not I'll remove the pan.

 

[Old Salt]

Any chance of getting a small endoscope type camera down there? They can be quite cheap on fleabay.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Any chance of getting a small endoscope type camera down there? They can be quite cheap on fleabay.

I would not recommend those. All you get is a blur. Mobile phone on a stick with delayed timer is the best option.

 

[Old Salt]

I would not recommend those. All you get is a blur. Mobile phone on a stick with delayed timer is the best option.

Yeah but an endoscope is smaller and easier to pass through small gaps rather than losing your phone! Focus is not a problem provided you don't try getting too close. Here you are only looking for damp spots, water runs etc to give some indication of the source of the leak.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Yeah but an endoscope is smaller and easier to pass through small gaps rather than losing your phone! Focus is not a problem provided you don't try getting too close. Here you are only looking for damp spots, water runs etc to give some indication of the source of the leak.

You will not be able to control its position nor orientation. So you will get an upside down blur of something. Apart from going down a hole, it's useless. Good quality phone photo is the only way.

 

[Gary111]

And it was not stained at all before tenant left ?
If no one has been using the toilet that points toward an issue with the supply pipework .
Or maybe it just wasn't noticed ,a supply pipe leak would be constantly leaking.

Hi Terry, thanks for all your help, I got a plumber to come out to it yesterday but he couldn't get the screws out that hold the pan to the floor.
I ended up spending most of the day drilling the heads off them, they were so hard, only seemed to be normal steel though.

I got the pan off and replaced the pan connector and flush cone.

The only thing I wasn't sure about was how to get the flush cone in enough, as when I pushed the toilet back into place it didn't want to go all the way to the wall.
I guess it puts pressure on the pipe that comes from the cistern which could cause a leak there?
I'm also not sure if the flush cone is pushed in enough as I can't get access once the toilet is pushed against the wall.

 

[terryplumb]

Pity you didn't send pics once WC pan was removed ,so we could see the space behind it. Did you establish where the leak was Coming from ?
I always fit the flush cone to the pipe ,and then insert into pan. The section of flush pipe ( vertical bit) should ideally have support behind it ( bracket or timber to the wall),that prevents stress on the cistern to flush pipe union when pushing pan backward to engage the flush pipe . Failing that ,and space allowing, putting pan as close as possible and pull f/ pipe into pan,whilst pushing pan towards wall. That puts a little strain on the cistern ,as it's getting pulled towards you,but at least you can see them going together usually.